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re: How far are we from the “top 12?”

Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:44 am to
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5858 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:44 am to
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The offseason of sunshine pumping begineth!

We were good enough to go 7-5 or 8-4 this season and herped and derped our way to a losing season.

I have zero expectations this season. If we beat Georgia and it’s not via some flukey plays, I will have some hope.


I don't give a shite how we beat Georgia. If we beat them on a fluke play it means the magic is back.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20354 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:49 am to
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I don't give a shite how we beat Georgia. If we beat them on a fluke play it means the magic is back.

Yeah, uat beat thUGA on a fluke play this past season. Just win baby
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34762 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:51 am to
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Same. But the reason for a lot of those loses is not the jim and joes.


I don't disagree but if you have superior Jim and Joes it can cover up for a lot of shortcomings elsewhere.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13206 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:51 am to
Several of our last QB's might argue that's a moot point without an offensive line.

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:10 am to
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Same. But the reason for a lot of those loses is not the jim and


Bro you been saying Thorne was the issue for 2 years. Make up your mind
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1331 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:10 am to
We do have superior guys, and should have leadership as well. I still contend this yr we lost 2 games strictly due to FG kicking.

It’s all on Freeze, can he make the right decisions
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:15 am to
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quote:
Same. But the reason for a lot of those loses is not the jim and joes.


I don't disagree but if you have superior Jim and Joes it can cover up for a lot of shortcomings elsewhere.


Superior Jims and Joes tend to create fluke plays. Experienced superior Jims and Joes tend to turn normal plays into flukes.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:17 am to
To answer the question we are good OL and DL play away. If we have a combo of very good play at both position groups we are in the playoffs
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:18 am to
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We do have superior guys, and should have leadership as well. I still contend this yr we lost 2 games strictly due to FG kicking.

It’s all on Freeze, can he make the right decisions


This past year's AU blue chip ratio was mid-pack at best in the SEC, and well below average in terms of experience. And you are correct that we lost 2 games just because of kicking, which is a tribute to coaching, Our kicking looked solid right up until McGough got the yips.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69456 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:40 am to
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Bro you been saying Thorne was the issue for 2 years. Make up your mind


I have been saying Throne sucked and I have never wavered. I have also said that Hugh Freeze is a total shite game day coach from the very very beginning and I have not wavered.


I am not sure what is so difficult to understand


Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20278 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:54 am to
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Hugh Freeze is a total shite game day coach from the very very beginning and I have not wavered


You are right.

2 games this year were flatly won by the players and snatched away by CHF.

Any imbecile could have won the Oklahoma and Missouri games.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20354 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:06 am to
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Several of our last QB's might argue that's a moot point without an offensive line.

The Oline was the best it’s been in years this past year.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20974 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:13 am to
Was it good enough to win games? Nope.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20354 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:23 am to
Yes, hence the multiple 1 score games that could’ve easily been won without the turnovers.
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1331 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:24 am to
What is blue chip ratio next yr?

Freeze is partially to blame for the time management aspect but kickers got to kick. Mcgugh was highly rated
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50081 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Yes, hence the multiple 1 score games that could’ve easily been won without the turnovers.

21 rushes for 97 yards against Vandy is what you are cheering for.

110 rushing yards against Missouri is what you are cheering for.

When does UTEP get Robby Ashford?

lololol
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34762 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:28 pm to
What was our blue chip rating compared to cal, ark, vandy, Missouri and Oklahoma with no receivers
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50081 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:40 pm to
Total roster talent rankings headed into this season:

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
4. Texas
7. Oklahoma 4 five star, 53 4 star
8. LSU
10. Texas A&M 7 five star, 43 four star
12. Florida
17. Tennessee
18. Auburn 1 five star, 42 four star
19. Missouri 3 five star, 26 four star
20. Ole Miss
21. S Carolina
24. Kentucky
26. Arkansas 2 five star, 27 four star
34. Miss St
50. Vanderbilt 0 five star, 12 four star
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:44 pm to
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What was our blue chip rating compared to cal, ark, vandy, Missouri and Oklahoma with no receivers


As I pointed out above, it takes BOTH blue chip ratio AND experience playing together to win. Even with their WR's out, we were solidly behind OU on BCR.

In experience terms, I can tell you we were well below both Missou and OK, and probably Ark as well - we were bottom three in the league. I believe we were also behind Vandy as well.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4356 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:13 pm to
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As I pointed out above, it takes BOTH blue chip ratio AND experience playing together to win. Even with their WR's out, we were solidly behind OU on BCR.

In experience terms, I can tell you we were well below both Missou and OK, and probably Ark as well - we were bottom three in the league. I believe we were also behind Vandy as well.


Your argument makes no sense logically. Oklahoma beat us with a true freshman QB making his first career start. We had the FAR more "experienced" QB and OL, and that is worth 10x the "experience" anywhere else on the field. Nobody gives a shite if you are starting true freshman WR's.

So no, Oklahoma could not possibly have been "more experienced". What a crock of shite.
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