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re: Golesh is Building the Program His Way

Posted on 12/6/25 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 4:26 pm to
No doubt another shitty season with zero offense didn’t help.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 4:47 pm to
Golesh and his Ghouls??
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 4:54 pm to
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I don't want him to simply replace Auburns entire staff with USFs. Some coaches, sure.

That will be setting us up for Harsin 2.0


His GM came with him to USF from Tennessee, and the other guy he brought in was at Vanderbilt before he hired him at USF, so these guys aren't random G5 guys. They both have SEC experience.

To be honest, I'm not sure anyone really knows who is "good" and who is not in these off-field roles yet. Your performance is more or less dependent on which program you are at. Will Redmond came with a lot of hype because of his success at LSU, but that is one of the premier programs in the country with limitless resources so doing the job there is a hell of a lot different than for example being the GM at Purdue. Its entirely possible that a guy who is currently at a small program is a "better" GM than someone who just so happened to be in the right place at the right time and is now sitting at an SEC school.
Posted by CrazyCadillac
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 5:07 pm to
It’s funny seeing our fans mad or happy about firing/hiring a gm or any off field role
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 5:11 pm to
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His GM came with him to USF from Tennessee,


Was also in the NFL, though not as a GM. I think he worked for the NFL itself in some capacity.

We are forming the new Warsaw Pact, bros.
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 6:29 pm to
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His GM came with him to USF from Tennessee, and the other guy he brought in was at Vanderbilt before he hired him at USF, so these guys aren't random G5 guys. They both have SEC experience.


The concern with him bringing too many USF people is more that it reflects on his lack of ability to hire staff outside of USF. It also runs the risk of him getting surrounded by yes men, by accident or on purpose. Transplanting a staff from one team to another is difficult to make work since the things that made USF "work" wont nessisarily work at Auburn and the staff is going to be heavily biased on doing what they did at USF cause it worked.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 6:37 pm to
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This is what it looks like when you give a coach autonomy to fire and hire the staffers he wants


Hope they keep Aubie, I like that guy.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Whether his fault or Freeze's


Freeze had a dead hand on the offense. Made everyone look bad, so in those terms we'll never know. Once Freeze was gone, the offense came was no longer a stick in the mud.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:00 pm to
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Lunsford is gone as well

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:51 pm to
GKB
Posted by AUEE13
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:56 pm to
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GKB


Excuse me, I believe it's spelled "KGB".
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 10:14 pm to
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Excuse me, I believe it's spelled "KGB".




Golesh doesn’t take second seat in the acronym sir.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:28 am to
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No doubt another shitty season with zero offense didn’t help.


No shat Rocky. This nonsense about holding off on NIL is just that nonsense.

So we have these guys right on the cusp, all we need to do is offer money, its 6 friggin months from signing day, we get the go ahead on the funds with 5 months remaining......and they still dont come. Ya think perhaps 3 shatty seasons might be enough to convince them the coaching sucks, maybe, just maybe?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:12 pm to
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The concern with him bringing too many USF people is more that it reflects on his lack of ability to hire staff outside of USF. It also runs the risk of him getting surrounded by yes men, by accident or on purpose. Transplanting a staff from one team to another is difficult to make work since the things that made USF "work" wont nessisarily work at Auburn and the staff is going to be heavily biased on doing what they did at USF cause it worked.



I think you are reading too much into it.

1) Most coaches are going to bring significant support staff from their previous school with them when they take new jobs, because generally speaking things were likely working well at the previous program (otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the promotion to the bigger program). Texas A&M's current "Recruiting General Manager" and "Director of Player Personnel" both came from Duke alongside Mike Elko, for example. Bama's "General Manager" also came with DeBoer from Washington.

This has to be a balancing act because you of course need to be realistic about the talent that you are bringing over to what will now be a bigger stage of college football, but again: Golesh's guys have prior SEC experience. These aren't guys that he dug up from nowhere and hired at USF and now he is rolling them along into the SEC.

2) With Golesh being a heavily "process driven" coach, it would seem obvious that he would prioritize support staff that already understand and gel with his process, especially if he is happy with the results to date. His recruiting guy already knows the type of player he wants at each position, so while Kenyatta Watson or whomever might have a good reputation here, you run the obvious risk that the head coach and the off-field support staff have differing opinions on who should be recruited, kept on the roster, or whatever.
Posted by AUIH1
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 4:58 pm to
Unless the dude in the suit has been playing Aubie for the last 2-3 years. Tell his arse to hit the portal! Time for some new blood in that suit.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 5:45 pm to
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This nonsense about holding off on NIL is just that nonsense.


Well, I will disagree with you on what happened there and it was longer than a month. Absolutely another bad season dealt a blow, anemic offense, fired coach, new coach. Pick your poison and any one of them would frick up a recruiting session sir. Are we really trying to pick one thing and does it matter? We have sucked for the last 7 years or so. We need to get into the game on all accounts and become relevant again. This isn’t rocket science, just football. Fricking Indiana is more of a football school than we are. That’s fricking sad.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:43 am to
Good leaders surround themselves with people that will call them on their BS, I imagine most of those guys from USF did
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:04 am to
Harsin's Boise Boys probably left too much of a sour taste in my mouth to trust anyone bringing too much of their previous staff in.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
2441 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:18 am to
Well dude what do you expect him to do, hire people he doesn't know at all?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:25 am to
I don’t care how he builds it as long as it results in multiple 10-win seasons.

Just win baby!
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