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re: Football Recruiting Thread: ESD Edition

Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 7:08 am to
I think its a waste of money to recruit another highly ranked 5 star this cycle.

Someone will leave, someone you have paid a fortune to sit on the bench.

Id like to see someone like this Burgess kid.

Now someone on here will say, nonsense go for broke! And that same person will be eerily quiet when all of our 5 star QBs are getting crushed because we could not afford some offensive tackles.

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 7:55 am to
I wouldn’t say waste of money because there is no guarantee on any QB. Who knows if Jackson Arnold balls out takes to something like 11-2 on the season and leaves for the NFL. Anything could happen. Deuce may suck. Then what do you have a project trying to fill in.

I understand both sides of the argument. But if a player of Curtis’s status is interested which he clearly is you have to entertain it
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:09 am to
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I think its a waste of money to recruit another highly ranked 5 star this cycle






Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:57 am to
We are going to have sign the most highly recruited and talented players at each position we can. NIL makes that weird at QB, but that's the world we live in. Bama did this every year but kids couldn't just hop into the portal the moment they felt threatened by incoming talent. My Guess is that Freeze and staff are preparing for the battle that will come AFTER Jackson Arnold.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:26 am to
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We are going to have sign the most highly recruited and talented players at each position we can. NIL makes that weird at QB, but that's the world we live in.


I do not believe this to be true at QB. Look at Lanning's HS QB recruiting since he took the Oregon job. He has all the NIL money in the world to do whatever he wants, and yet his HS QB recruiting has been "mid" in the 3 full recruiting classes that he has had there. He is signing "4-stars", but they are in the National 100+ overall range. This is by choice. His highest rated "young QB signee" has been Dante Moore, who was poached from the Portal and didn't come from HS.

The old recruiting models need to be altered with NIL and the Portal. You get literally nothing out of spending millions to stack 3+ "elite QB's" onto your roster. Those players will leave immediately, just like Walker White did, or just like Air Noland did at OSU.

You aren't going to safe-guard for the possibility of Deuce Knight failing by leveraging a player who is even younger than he is. If Deuce Knight ends up sucking, the solution is to go to the Portal. The Portal isn't just for immediate starters; you are seeing that your elite HS QB's who were signed just a year ago are already on the market again a year later. Like Dante Moore.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:31 am to
The same mother frickers that have bitched about QB play for years are trying to manage the roster to take lower rated players. Insanity!!!
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:13 pm to
I do love the discussion, now we are debating how many 5 star QBs to have on the team, I like it, I like it a lot.



Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20350 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:35 pm to
I’m in the sign a 5* QB every year boat. We’ve seen Auburn do big things with a dynamic QB and mediocre talent surrounding him. We have not seen it the other way around.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15340 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:54 pm to
It would be irresponsible to not recruit the best player you can at QB every year. Iron sharpens iron, you'll lose a few players to the portal either way.
Posted by Luke
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 5:07 pm to
Truth
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 5:38 pm to
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The same mother frickers that have bitched about QB play for years are trying to manage the roster to take lower rated players. Insanity!!!

Yeah that's crazy. If the top 3 QBs in the country are interested, throw all the money you can at them and have a fricking dance competition if everything else is equal. At least that keeps two guys off of a rival team's roster.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18643 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:59 am to
I missed the fact where Elon Musk was now a booster
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44866 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:48 am to
Tariffs on Canadian lumber means our Yellowwood NIL fund is about to explode.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20972 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:07 am to
Yella fella for life!!
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3946 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:49 pm to
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You aren't going to safe-guard for the possibility of Deuce Knight failing by leveraging a player who is even younger than he is. If Deuce Knight ends up sucking, the solution is to go to the Portal. The Portal isn't just for immediate starters; you are seeing that your elite HS QB's who were signed just a year ago are already on the market again a year later. Like Dante Moore.
100% and the reason qb is so different is bc there's so few on the roster and you can only play 1. And good luck keeping 2 millionaire 20 year olds on the roster at the same time when you can only play 1.

Ohio St is the only team I can think of that's keeping a depth chart full of these kids and holding on to them but that could change in an instant. And it's not hard to figure out what makes ohio st a little different.

The strat might be to alternate portal and high school recruiting yearly. Get you a portal guy that can go a couple years, then get you a top 100 high school kid that'll be a sophomore when portal guy leaves. Season the roster with low 4 stars for depth. Maybe that's the recipe for stability these days.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18643 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:12 am to
Thanks SwaAU, I think you and meta explained better than I.

The point is, we would all love to have a bushel of 5 star QBs, but reality says we certainly cant afford that AND a competitive roster as well. And even if we had them they would not stay.

Go for broke every other year and in the alternate years pick up a "second tier" kid with potential. Why I mentioned this Burgess kid, Alan Head spoke about his improvement over the past year in their podcast. Kid has the arm, makes all the throws, and has some wheels. Threw 60% as a junior for Grayson who plays some of the best teams in the south (now look at Walker Whites completion as a junior in lower division in Arkansas).

Space out the "5 stars" every other year, they get the practice reps, some game experience and are ready to go when its their turn.

Now save that money and spend it on some OL
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20972 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:16 am to
Never take a recruiting cycle off. If you pace your “top” rated QB every other year what happens when your QB gets injured? Then you have 2 QBs you recruited just for practice snaps. Insanity. Everyone on here says QB is by far the most important position. Which I agree singularly however I thing the OL group and DL group are more important position groups. But singularly QB is. So we want to “cheap” out on it?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4356 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:57 am to
You are making a strawman argument. Nobody is talking about "taking a year off" or not continuing to sign QB's. We are specifically talking about spending the time and money to sign a "5-star" QB every single year, which is going to prove to be the college football equivalent of throwing money into a dumpster and lighting it on fire. I can't think of a worse way to attribute NIL funds, which in case everyone forgot, are not unlimited.

There is zero upside to committing millions of dollars to players who are never going to even step onto the football field for you. Proper roster building and NIL management moving forward will also have to include the TIMING of acquisitions.

The team is not going to fold if you follow Deuce Knight with a Top 250 QB from HS instead of another 5-star. The money that you save in doing so can be spent to protect and increase the probability that the two 7-figure QB's that we just brought in at the same time (Arnold & Deuce) actually succeed.

Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20972 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:07 am to
I guess the coaching staff sees differently.

Remember a $20m windfall is coming. So our budget will be at least around $20m.

We are currently working off around a $13m budget through NIL.
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