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re: does anyone see a bright future under Harsin?

Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Do you know football or do you know vague water cooler talk? If you want to be the Herbstriet of our message board go for it bud. Bama was already figuring out our defense by the time fourth quarter came around. Nothing of that defensive gameplan was short of magical. If Harsin told Tank’s arse to stay in bounds and not screw our defense Auburn would’ve won.



I agree about Tank. I strongly disagree about the D. We were sending heat all game. They hit a few big runs and Mason stopped sending any kind of pressure. They drove it effortlessly on us after that. Mason just refused to send pressure...........for the entire season. If you don't believe me, watch MSU again.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:32 pm to
I know tank fricked up but my beef was harsin sticking with a ab who couldn’t run or pass. It was painful to watch. Should’ve made a switch down the stretch. Or just run tank in the wildcat.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:50 pm to
I had high hopes. And I still think he is a great football coach. I think he got bent over this off-season and has next to zero chance now to succeed though. I love his tenacity. I like how he is hard nosed. And mostly I love his frick you mentality if you don’t fit it, get out. I think he will do great things somewhere when given the reigns fully. But I don’t see any way he can do it here unless he wins 9 games minimum this year.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16580 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 11:58 pm to
The issue with this notion that Harsin got bent over by the booster or PTB is we don’t know the entire story. Essentially what we heard via click bait articles was disgruntled coaches, players, and possibly some sexual misconduct in some form. If it was a report of misconduct the university had to take any allegation or rumor seriously. That’s just how the world works now. If it was player abuse complaint had to be investigated. Nothing was stated by anyone in the know even at a “sources” level. The university a few weeks later come out and made a statement that they did a full investigation and found no issues but didn’t say what the investigation was.

So to keep on that Harsin got screwed over in some way is nonsense. It’s the same everywhere if shite hits the fan the university is going to do an investigation. Same thing happened to Bruce but did everyone whine and bitch about it nope Bruce kept getting the job done.

Harsin was a horrible recruiter prior to whatever happened in the off season and is just barely a hair better now.

And with that said I don’t see a future at all for him possibly after this year but most definitely after next. He has made weird in game decisions and didn’t seem to hold the coaches accountable last year other then Corn and who knows what really went down there. All I know is the WRs couldn’t get on the field properly much less get lined up.

Anyway I will always want to win every game and hope we do the next 30 years. But this just feels like a short unenthusiastic 2-3 years then a complete rebuild.
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 7:06 am to
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The MSU game is the dumbest called game I think I have ever seen.


It was pretty bad. I remember asking myself if Mason decided to lose intentionally.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48942 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:18 am to
He got railroaded and if you don't agree that's fine. But it's clear he had his name and family drug through the mud by our own writers with no hard evidence

He continues to get screwed because the folks that hired him knew he had no connections here. Recruiting was going to be hard no matter what
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:24 am to
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He got railroaded and if you don't agree that's fine. But it's clear he had his name and family drug through the mud by our own writers with no hard evidence

Our writers didn’t say shite about about him. It was more like the Montgomery advertiser. And even they wouldn’t dare write about the rumored affair. Feel free to link your evidence and stop complaining about the mistreatment by some fans and some rogue writers, thanks.

This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 8:43 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:27 am to
The MSU game has nothing to do with our Bama conversation.

Tank screwed our great defense.

Harsin and the OC screwed our defense by sitting on that 2 point conversion play.


I’m tired of hearing you say that the coordinator of the only great unit on the field that night was the “problem.”
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:27 am to
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Our writers didn’t say shite about about him. It was more like the Montgomery advertiser. And even they wouldn’t dare write about the rumored affair. Feel free to link your evidence and stop complaining about the mistreatment of of some fans and some rogue authors thanks.


Are you kidding me ? I recall Justin Hokinson being one of the main ones starting the rumors
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:35 am to
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Are you kidding me ? I recall Justin Hokinson being one of the main ones starting the rumors

Feel free to link. “Sources tell me he is probably out” or hokanson retweeting a Monthgomery Advertiser article with “woah” isn’t comparable to himself stirring shite up.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 8:36 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:44 am to
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Feel free to link.


LINK
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:52 am to
“Later in the evening, Hokanson said on a Twitter space that he has definitive, significant reason to believe that there is a movement within Auburn University and its athletic department to try and remove Harsin from his role.”

This is not comparable to disparaging Harsin and his family. Our writers didn’t do that.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:58 am to
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But I don’t see any way he can do it here unless he wins 9 games minimum

First off, he’s not a lame duck. He can manage his way out of this the same way Tuberville managed his way out of Jetgate. If anything the scandal brought fan support to him for whatever reason. And the “mysterious reason” is probably because Auburn fans are conditioned to believe the PTB are evil thus if PTB has their sights against Harsin then Harsin must be some Donald Trump character draining their swamp or some shite.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:20 am to
He was railroaded. Our own writer leaked out problems with tank bigsby in December before all this. Then you had Hoke stirring the pot saying he's on the verge of getting canned after year one

That's all it takes for rumors and speculation to run wild. I also recall our own folks running with the alleged racism stuff for a bit when it seemed to only come from a single player that transferred out
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:33 am to
Those were all real things that happened. He was, in fact, under investigation. Tank Bigsby did, in fact, almost leave (he got a pretty nice NIL deal to stay, btw - thanks boosters!).

I fail to see what this discussion is even devolving into. Are you suggesting that Bryan Harsin is some unicorn HC who is supposed to not have real events reported about him? The media is to protect him? There isn't a school in the country who's writers wouldn't report on the HC being investigated for potential violations.

Justin Hokanson did not say anything about Harsin or his family. What an absolutely asinine statement. He did his job and stated that his job was in limbo, which it was.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:37 am to
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He was railroaded.

He should’ve been railroaded.
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Our own writer leaked out problems with tank bigsby in December before all this.

So basically he was doing his job of providing premium team specific content. He was not making shite up. Tank was considering leaving. On social media Tank was sharing fan posts that Auburn doesn’t deserve him.


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Then you had Hoke stirring the pot saying he's on the verge of getting canned after year one

He wasn’t lying there either. He doesn’t work for the university, nor for 6-7 PR team. He should’ve relayed that information as part of his job.
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I also recall our own folks running with the alleged racism stuff

That was definitely the Montgomery Advertiser. And this is my issue with your recollection of facts at that time- you’re mixing up information from fan posts, newspaper writers, and beat writers, but saying all the disparaging information came from within when it didn’t.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:48 am to
Hokanson flipped the script as soon as it was believed Harsin was staying into a narrative of Harsin being the winner, not the loser, and wrote about why fans should like Harsin after beating the PTB. He was clearly an attention whore then but he didn’t do anything wrong.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48942 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:55 am to
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He should’ve been railroaded.


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36481 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:42 am to
You act like I haven’t been saying that since January. What is this amateur hour?


He visited maybe three recruits before NSD when all coaches should’ve been hyper focused on recruiting. He also alienated several local recruits. So you’re saying he shouldn’t have been railroaded?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48942 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:54 am to
Correct. The entire thing could have been handled behind closed doors
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 10:55 am
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