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re: Cohen betting his career on Aug 1
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:03 pm to TailbackU
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:03 pm to TailbackU
What about the implication the teams are front loading their deals before the Settlement takes place. As in Texas Tech paid out 30.5 million in the spring and will pay another 20.5 as per the settlement. Total 50 million and change.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:28 pm to jangalang
Probably will take punishment to be over the cap
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:26 pm to CorchJay
We are being uber conservative and we will pay.
But Hugh had a good day golfing though.
But Hugh had a good day golfing though.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 7:17 am to jangalang
This is an example of how this is going to go down:
School offers player $1M. That valuation is not fully possible under just the revenue sharing cap, so most or a large portion has to be funded in extra NIL deals.
Those additional NIL deals have to be approved by NIL Go and that cannot happen until the recruit is OFFICIALLY on campus.
If the recruit accepts that $1M NIL deals, and the school cannot get the additional NIL approved then it will ALL go against the “cap”.
This is what Cohen was saying and what most are reporting about “fake” deals being thrown around right now to recruits. Schools are making a lot of promises they cannot keep.
School offers player $1M. That valuation is not fully possible under just the revenue sharing cap, so most or a large portion has to be funded in extra NIL deals.
Those additional NIL deals have to be approved by NIL Go and that cannot happen until the recruit is OFFICIALLY on campus.
If the recruit accepts that $1M NIL deals, and the school cannot get the additional NIL approved then it will ALL go against the “cap”.
This is what Cohen was saying and what most are reporting about “fake” deals being thrown around right now to recruits. Schools are making a lot of promises they cannot keep.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 7:18 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 8:17 am to AUWDE
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That valuation is not fully possible under just the revenue sharing cap, so most or a large portion has to be funded in extra NIL deals.
This is slick lawyer work and needs to go away by punishment or else the revenue cap is soft as butter
We should have a similar model of the NFL Salary Cap. If Peyton Manning wants to do a sprite commercial on his own time then he can, but only his agent needs to be involved and the school should not be allowed to open doors, facilitate deals, or harbor brokers willing to do so. Schools selling access to recruits and facilitating deals with third parties are circumventing the cap thus those NIL monies should be the school's responsibility and fall under their own cap.
If Ohio State wants to arrange a good time for Lebron James to visit the Ohio State locker room and give out gifts then those gifts should be deducted as well. Make the whole system so fair that good football wins championships, not money and influence
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:21 am to jangalang
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Schools selling access to recruits and facilitating deals with third parties are circumventing the cap thus those NIL monies should be the school's responsibility and fall under their own cap.
They will be, if the school cannot deliver a VALID NIL opportunity approved by the oversight committee. Those deals aided by the university will not be able to be approved until the player is actually on campus and if not, they have to go against revenue sharing cap which is where the school is going to end up in a world of issues.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:23 am to AUWDE
Yep. Another thing to consider around this, it isn't necessarily a bad position to be in to be the late offer in these scenarios. We saw a few last cycle that we thought we had wrapped up with a good offer, only to see someone swoop in last minute and up ours. July isn't the time we need to be getting into bidding wars.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:39 am to AUWDE
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They will be, if the school cannot deliver a VALID NIL opportunity approved by the oversight committee.
Is there subjective bias that mudds these waters? Yes. They will stew over these bullshite lawsuit after lawsuit. Take this out completely.
Tom Mars, the CFB lawyer is already trying to argue the collectives like On To Victory are valid because they bring a benefit to the public good.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 10:10 am to jangalang
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collectives like On To Victory are valid because they bring a benefit to the public good
I'm not saying that you agree with that but in no way do collectives provide a public good. They are entities created to pay players more than their actual commercial NIL value.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:52 am to borotiger
HS recruits aren’t the only recruits. You have to recruit current roster and you can go way of transfer portal as well. In NIL land there are only a few guarantees. Money tends to change attitudes, effort, and where someone plays there sophomore year. Just build a roster with a great QB. Get some transfers. All good. More worried we can’t coach the ones we got.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:55 am to borotiger
What's crazy is if they structured a deal worth $599 per day it wouldn't have to go through NILGo. So $218,625/yr if they were to do daily deposits even without going through the clearinghouse. If my understanding is correct. That's a lot of money across 85-100 players possibly.
I agree with others here. Make a solid cap whatever that amount is for each sport. Just for example.
$15m football
$5m basketball
$5m baseball
$5m across all other sports
And if a player/agent/or other personal representative can get legit endorsements for the player without the school being involved then they can make as much as they want. However the endorsement shouldn't be allowed from a graduate/booster of the University that the player plays for.
I agree with others here. Make a solid cap whatever that amount is for each sport. Just for example.
$15m football
$5m basketball
$5m baseball
$5m across all other sports
And if a player/agent/or other personal representative can get legit endorsements for the player without the school being involved then they can make as much as they want. However the endorsement shouldn't be allowed from a graduate/booster of the University that the player plays for.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 4:54 am to CorchJay
What's crazy is us paying them for their right to make money on their Name, Image, and Likeness. Auburn is enabling these otherwise losers, in a great many cases, to make all this money. And for this we are suppose to set it for them from the start. The school should be getting a cut not paying.
Go out and get you a deal son.
In truth it's a two way street. And they are not taking the risk on hiring a nobody, sure their body is on the line, but that's a freely made (and wanted) choice on their part. Being the apprentice is a time honored tradition that we need to reinstall. Because we're putting the cart ahead of the horse's by paying for undeveloped, not ready for prime time, children to learn their sport. Which is backasswardwrong and goes against the norm in any other career they would have chose.
I kid, but not too much, because only a precious few deserve the treatment the whole lot is receiving.
Go out and get you a deal son.
In truth it's a two way street. And they are not taking the risk on hiring a nobody, sure their body is on the line, but that's a freely made (and wanted) choice on their part. Being the apprentice is a time honored tradition that we need to reinstall. Because we're putting the cart ahead of the horse's by paying for undeveloped, not ready for prime time, children to learn their sport. Which is backasswardwrong and goes against the norm in any other career they would have chose.
I kid, but not too much, because only a precious few deserve the treatment the whole lot is receiving.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:52 am to awestruck
Uh, I wouldn’t they say they are unproven…most 5 star HS kids are going to be difference makers for a team and as of now that’s what the free market says they are worth. 6’3 225 4.4 40, means the same at any age. I would argue there is more demand than supply. The real question is…what are the donating bodies getting in return. I think demand will drop at some point due to lack of return. Schools that don’t put a good product on the field are going to have wavering donors..fans, boosters etc and will expect a new coach that can, himself, be a difference maker, with development, strategy, play calling, playing the right guys, and most all winning….
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:56 am to TailbackU
At what point is this no longer even remotely a "college" football team? And who is actually the business behind the sport? Just sponsors and broadcasters? I feel like every limit that is attempted by the NCAA will be quickly shot down in a court and what I've heard from the legislators trying to jump into this chaotic mess sounds like an even bigger problem that, again, has jack-all to do with "college".
It just sucks. It's a bad product that's going to only get worse.
It just sucks. It's a bad product that's going to only get worse.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:40 am to jangalang
Jang,
I question this up front payment as well. Seems if it doesnt technically count towards the limit that was installed after the spring they think they pulled a fast one. But if the money was up front they have no contract and could leave with no ties. So they take a huge paycheck and bolt for a good school after fall.
I question this up front payment as well. Seems if it doesnt technically count towards the limit that was installed after the spring they think they pulled a fast one. But if the money was up front they have no contract and could leave with no ties. So they take a huge paycheck and bolt for a good school after fall.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:02 am to trinidadtiger
No booster is going to have a problem coming up with a Legit deal. Some will argue that a kid right out of high school does not have much draw to justify a big "spokesperson" fee with a company.
No problem. I set up a non profit to rescue dogs, have Arnold and Faulk as my spokesmen and pay them. Their money comes off the cap and onto my payroll and I have freed up the cap money to pay incoming freshmen.
I agree it should be a hard cap, wherever the money comes from.
Otherwise the 20.5 million is just an ante for a very expensive game, and judging from what most schools are doing, thats what they believe.
No problem. I set up a non profit to rescue dogs, have Arnold and Faulk as my spokesmen and pay them. Their money comes off the cap and onto my payroll and I have freed up the cap money to pay incoming freshmen.
I agree it should be a hard cap, wherever the money comes from.
Otherwise the 20.5 million is just an ante for a very expensive game, and judging from what most schools are doing, thats what they believe.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:07 am to trinidadtiger
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Otherwise the 20.5 million is just an ante for a very expensive game, and judging from what most schools are doing, thats what they believe.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:37 am to awestruck
Cohen needs to setup an all call to get his student athletes to work on being better citizens currently, this can't get Georgia out-of-hand
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:19 am to TemperdTiger
I can tell you that over here in Georgia, they are doing whatever it takes to get guys to commit. Kirby does not give a single frick. His mission is to “navigate better than your competitors and we continue to find ways to do that” and he simply doesn’t care what that involves. He is a win at all cost guy and he owns that Athletics department. They do whatever he says to do. I’m not sure Hugh has that same Fire after getting burned at Ole Miss.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:11 am to TailbackU
Yeah, that's called Lack of Institutional Control when we try to do it that way.
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