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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:32 am to jangalang
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:32 am to jangalang
Dabo gets paid for results today, not what he did yesterday. That is what the statue is for.
AU record would probably look pretty good if they had Clemson's schedule this year.
We are just going to disagree. You think he is a cultural fit, but I think he is a whiny bitch.
And taking three people from the portal does not indicate a big philosophical change to me.
AU record would probably look pretty good if they had Clemson's schedule this year.
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Dabo has altered his transfer portal philosophy and he is a great cultural fit. Sorry "be the change" fans.
We are just going to disagree. You think he is a cultural fit, but I think he is a whiny bitch.
And taking three people from the portal does not indicate a big philosophical change to me.
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:33 am to jangalang
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Dabo has altered his transfer portal philosophy and he is a great cultural fit. Sorry "be the change" fans.
The early results on his transfer portal philosophy are horrible, as proven by their decline from last season and record this season LOL.
What point are you trying to make? He has started using the portal, but all he has shown so far is that he is really bad at it.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:36 am to metafour
Can we also please not mention Matt Campbell's name.
He has been brought up in virtually every school's head coaching opening for 5+ years straight now. He clearly has no interest in leaving Iowa State.
He has been brought up in virtually every school's head coaching opening for 5+ years straight now. He clearly has no interest in leaving Iowa State.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:38 am to metafour
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so its very odd to see fans now operate as if its preposterous to try with a hungry upstart who has something to prove.
Upstarts are like 3* athletes. They are numerous in quantity thus they shine or bust with great numbers, but when they shine people are like this is why recruiting rankings suck.
Barbee was once a "rising up and comer".So was Napier or Aranda or Todd Herman and so on. These flavor of the month dudes often seem to be busts.
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Furthermore, most of the top programs today are fielding head coaches who were NOT hired as established coaches.
They have the NIL to outlast a failed promotion.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:40 am to metafour
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The early results on his transfer portal philosophy are horrible, as proven by their decline from last season and record this season LOL. What point are you trying to make? He has started using the portal, but all he has shown so far is that he is really bad at it.
I think he is tired of Clemson and new to transfer portal recruiting.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:44 am to higgs_boson
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And taking three people from the portal does not indicate a big philosophical change to me.
It was zero for many years.
quote:His fans suck at life.
We are just going to disagree. You think he is a cultural fit, but I think he is a whiny bitch.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:47 am to jangalang
Jang, the list of "proven coaches" who fail is no different than the list of upstarts who failed. This is the point you miss.
Hugh Freeze was proven, and he now sucks.
Luke Fickell has been a huge failure at Wisconsin.
Lincoln Riley has been a big disappointment at USC.
Bryan Harsin WAS proven - he had a ~Top 3 winning percentage in all of college football when we hired him.
You can go down the list. Tommy Tuberville was only 56 years old when Texas Tech hired him, and yet he failed there, and then failed at Cincinatti as well despite the fact that he was going down in competition from the SEC. Dabo Swinney is 55 - virtually the same age.
You don't even need to look far: Gene Chizik and Gus Malzahn were CONSIDERABLY more successful at Auburn than Bryan Harsin and Hugh Freeze despite the fact that they were both completely unproven. Chizik had a few terrible years at Iowa State, and Malzahn just had one season at a mid-major program.
Hugh Freeze was proven, and he now sucks.
Luke Fickell has been a huge failure at Wisconsin.
Lincoln Riley has been a big disappointment at USC.
Bryan Harsin WAS proven - he had a ~Top 3 winning percentage in all of college football when we hired him.
You can go down the list. Tommy Tuberville was only 56 years old when Texas Tech hired him, and yet he failed there, and then failed at Cincinatti as well despite the fact that he was going down in competition from the SEC. Dabo Swinney is 55 - virtually the same age.
You don't even need to look far: Gene Chizik and Gus Malzahn were CONSIDERABLY more successful at Auburn than Bryan Harsin and Hugh Freeze despite the fact that they were both completely unproven. Chizik had a few terrible years at Iowa State, and Malzahn just had one season at a mid-major program.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:08 pm to jangalang
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Upstarts are like 3* athletes. They are numerous in quantity thus they shine or bust with great numbers
This analogy doesn't even make sense to me. How is someone like Will Stein (the Oregon OC) akin to a 3-star? He is the opposite: a virtuoso who has blown through the coaching ranks at an extremely young age and is fielding elite results despite the fact that he has had a different QB every season. You think that there is a infinite quantity of these guys?
Someone like him COULD fail as a HC, or he could be the next great offensive mind for the next ~10 years. The likelihood of that is probably higher than the likelihood that Dabo Swinney is going to be able to adapt to the new reality of college football, especially when there really isn't even any reason for him to do so as he is filthy rich and has already had a long career. Being a HC at this level for as long as Swinney has been is extremely tiring. Hugh Freeze said a lot of the right things himself, but you can tell that he is over it and he's now just mailing it in.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:12 pm to metafour
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This analogy doesn't even make sense to me. How is someone like Will Stein (the Oregon OC) akin to a 3-star? He is the opposite: a virtuoso who has blown through the coaching ranks at an extremely young age and is fielding elite results despite the fact that he has had a different QB every season. You think that there is a infinite quantity of these guys?
There are a lot of stars until theyre no longer. For all I know he will be reading Offense for Dummies by the time he gets here. This guy being an OC and not a HC makes him a solid 3* in my book.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:46 pm to jangalang
Problem with our offense like Dismukes said every play is an RPO. Oline don't know what to do. WRs don't know to block or run a route. Its just a mess.
Pro-style offense with spread concepts will always be the GOAT.
Have a few RPOs if you want but right now every play is an RPO with Arnold reading 1 defender. If he doesn't like the look after he keeps it he's cooked. No time to make other progressions.
These defensive coaches like ELKO and Venables can easily show Arnold one thing pre-snap or even after then go a different route. Kirby is going to eat our lunch it may be 16 sacks
Pro-style offense with spread concepts will always be the GOAT.
Have a few RPOs if you want but right now every play is an RPO with Arnold reading 1 defender. If he doesn't like the look after he keeps it he's cooked. No time to make other progressions.
These defensive coaches like ELKO and Venables can easily show Arnold one thing pre-snap or even after then go a different route. Kirby is going to eat our lunch it may be 16 sacks
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:44 pm to jangalang
quote:i didn’t think he was ready in 2020, based only on that covid season record
I wanted Campbell in 2020! He doesnt want us.
he’s definitely proven he can win consistently at a place that is almost impossible to do so
i would hope that the idiots that attempt to control AU football may finally realize that they’re failing miserably at it and give up
inability to recognize that reality is why Campbell or anyone like him would not want the gig
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:50 pm to FearlessFreep
Thoughts on Brent Key?
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:53 pm to Fear The Thumb
Any coach that wins with a Covid QB needs to have a red flag
Posted on 10/3/25 at 1:56 pm to Fear The Thumb
quote:i think he’s pretty good, but i believe that the current landscape will make it increasingly difficult to lure HCs away from their alma maters, especially if they’re moderately successful
Thoughts on Brent Key?
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:18 pm to FlyDownTheField
Right now
Clark Lea
Clark Lea
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:20 pm to Beachbum87
We’d offer and he’d turn us down at this point. lol
Posted on 10/4/25 at 3:39 pm to JTW0036
No he wouldn't. We would pay triple and he'll always have a talent ceiling at Vandy.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:16 pm to Beachbum87
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Right now
Clark Lea
If we decide to make a coaching change this year, THROW THE CHECKBOOK AT CLARK LEA! He's about to get a lot of offers, and he's the real deal.
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:17 pm to greygoose
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If we decide to make a coaching change this year, THROW THE CHECKBOOK AT CLARK LEA
Clark Lea probably isnt leaving his Alma mater for the dumpster fire that is Auburn.
The real talent on that staff is Jerry Kill and his protégé, Tim Beck. Lea spent 3 years being the Vandy of old until those guys came in from NMST.
This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:23 pm to IAmNERD
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Clark Lea probably isnt leaving his Alma mater for the dumpster fire that is Auburn.
Coaches do not give a shite about staying at their alma mater. It a job. Money and success is at the top, just like me, you, and everyone breathing. quote:Make it a package deal! Massive improvement over what we currently have.
The real talent on that staff is Jerry Kill and his protégé, Tim Beck.
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