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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:57 am to
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:57 am to
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You think Ole Miss would just give us a pass on 10MM/year? Serious question.



Of course not.

Any school would be stupid to give another school a pass on that, especially one in conference.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:58 am to
Exactly. It is why Lane will not be an option
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:59 am to
Someone is going to buy it out. He won’t be at Ole Miss for 3 more years
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:00 am to
Yeah I get it. I’m just saying I don’t blame Robinson for not wanting to do it is all. Do I think Robinson came in disliking Sanders and wanting to knock him off his perch. Yes of course but come on about thinking everyone wants to bro hug you cause your Prime. Lol
Posted by slacker130
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:08 am to
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Someone is going to buy it out. He won’t be at Ole Miss for 3 more years



Absolutely. We will pay the same, just not to him and not on the front side of any contract. Buyout $ flows like wine.

Lane's USC stint- I believe if USC could opt for a redo, they would. He have severe scholarship reductions and still put together some pieces, just not in the time frame they wanted.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:11 am to
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Yes, but his contract is a issue.
Again, Mississippi state law prohibits any public employee from being contracted for more than 4 years.

Kiffin (or Leach) can get any amount of money, guaranteed, for up to 4 years, but not a day beyond that.

It may be that Kiffin wants a longer deal. If we (or any other school in a state without similar restrictions) offers him, say, $10mil a year for 7 years they can't counter with anything more than 4.
Posted by FlyDownTheField
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:12 am to
We should just bring in Rhule right now. The more time he has before next season the better.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:14 am to
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We should just bring in Rhule right now


Why should we hire a freshly fired coach?


/s
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:15 am
Posted by FlyDownTheField
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:16 am to
Hopefully we don't fumble the bag again this time and bring in a 4th rate coach from the mountains again.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:17 am to
That's got nothing to do with it. Do you think Auburn is interested in paying 40MM in buyouts then paying Kiffin 10MM a year plus staff?
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:18 am to
From the Rebels Rivals mod

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McCready: Auburn is next, and we all know what that means

Neal McCready • RebelGrove
Publisher
NASHVILLE — You can’t say you haven’t been warned.

It’s coming. Hell, to some degree, it’s already started. But make no mistake whatsoever. It is coming.

It, in case you’re wondering, is speculation that Lane Kiffin will be Auburn’s primary target sometime late next month. No. 8 Ole Miss, which improved to 6-0 overall and 2-0 in the Southeastern Conference here Saturday with a 52-28 win over Vanderbilt here at FirstBank Stadium, begins the second half of the season next Saturday in Oxford against Auburn, which spent its Saturday afternoon in Athens getting walloped by No. 2 Georgia, 42-10.

Auburn coach Bryan Harsin is, from a coaching perspective, a dead man walking. No matter what you think of Harsin, he never had a chance on the Plains. The powerful boosters who run Auburn had endured all of Gus Malzahn that they could at the end of the 2020 season, so they conspired to get rid of him. The goal was to fire Malzahn, give him his double-digit millions in buyout money and replace him with defensive coordinator Kevin Steele.

The problem, of course, was the athletic director at the time, Allen Greene, wasn’t on board with the second half of the coup. So after Malzahn was let go and awarded his golden parachute, Greene pushed back on the “just hire Steele” portion of the plan. Greene conducted a coaching search, one that eventually ended with the hiring of Harsin, who was Boise State’s coach at the time.

I’ve never been to Boise — if you’re a McCready & Siskey, powered by Reign Total Body Fuel fan, insert joke here — but I’ve been to Auburn, and I suspect the two places couldn’t be more different. Auburn can be a phenomenal job. Gene Chizik, for God’s sake, won a national championship there. Malzahn played in the title game. Terry Bowden went undefeated at Auburn. So did Tommy Tuberville. However, Auburn can make “Days Of Our Lives” blush. The drama! The scandal! When the Tigers are pulling in one direction, they’re dangerous. But when they’re not, the implosion is spectacular.

So here we are. Ole Miss has now won 17 of its last 20 games under Kiffin, dating back to a Jan. 2, 2021, Outback Bowl win over Indiana. Auburn is 9-11 in its last 20 games. So, yeah, Kiffin’s name is going to come up a lot this week when conversations shift to what comes next on the Plains.

Kiffin won’t mind. He subscribes to the “all publicity is good publicity” theory, and it’s served him well over the years. He’s a click magnet as well. If you want your story to get attention and aggregation, put Kiffin’s name in the headline and run his photo with the story. Kiffin moves the needle.

So, is it real? There’s the rub. There’s probably a morsel of truth to the idea that Auburn will kick the proverbial tires on Kiffin to justify the speculation, at least to an extent. Kiffin would not be doing himself any negotiating favors if he just shot it all down, either. But is it real? I highly, highly doubt it. And there are a number of reasons for that skepticism.

First, if Auburn boosters want to regain control over the program — and they do — Kiffin is not a good fit. Greene is gone now and Auburn is searching for a new athletics director, preferably one, I assume, who will do what the boosters want him to do. That AD, one would assume, will also hire someone who will do things more the Auburn way than Harsin did. That’s not Kiffin.

Kiffin is one hell of a football coach. He’s a brilliant offensive mind. He’s innovative and resourceful, as evidenced by how he used the transfer portal to turn what should have been a rebuilding year into a fall where Ole Miss just might be in the College Football Playoff discussion early next month.

Kiffin is not, however, the hobnob-with-the-boosters kind of coach. He’s a bit aloof. He likes to get out of town and head closer to an ocean, whether it be to fish in Florida or see his family in California. I’ve never asked him this directly, but I’d bet a decent amount of money that he despises the glad-handing fan events with a blazing passion. Honestly, if Auburn is looking at Ole Miss coaches, they should head to Liberty. There’s a guy there who, assuming he can avoid the pitfalls of Twitter, makes a ton of sense.

Secondly, Kiffin is the brand at Ole Miss. Let me clarify that statement. Kiffin is THE brand at Ole Miss. He arrived in Oxford, changed the uniforms, shut out the good ole boys and just started winning his way. He’s adored in Oxford. His daughter, now a senior at Oxford High School, moved to Mississippi in the summer. She wanted a dog. Kiffin bought a yellow Labrador retriever. They named the dog Juice. With apologies to Jaxson Dart, Juice is now the second biggest celebrity in Oxford. He’s essentially Ole Miss’ new mascot. Just a week ago, he was hanging with Laura Rutledge and assaulting Tim Tebow’s microphone. Auburn isn’t the kind of place to make Kiffin the brand. Juice can displace Ole Miss’ ill-designed tin can of a mascot, Tony the Landshark, but he’s not going to push Aubie out of the way.

Finally, in the new era of college football, Ole Miss just might be a better job. Historically, there’s no question Auburn is head, shoulders, knees and toes a better job than Ole Miss. It’s not debatable. But today? I wonder.

Ole Miss is paying Kiffin $7.5 million a year and it will almost certainly pay him more — likely much more — in 2023. The school is refurbishing the Manning Center. It has relaunched The Grove Collective, the NIL effort necessary to remain competitive.

I have no doubt Kiffin is occasionally frustrated with some things at Ole Miss — the slowness with which things happen drives him crazy, I’m told — but I think he knows he has a good gig. Are there jobs he’d leave for? Sure. However, if you draw a Venn diagram of jobs that would pay Kiffin $9-plus million per year, make him the brand and have the resources to load up on five-star prospects and openings at those schools and it’s a really small overlap. Tiny.

If I were an Ole Miss fan, I’d be worried about the Cowboys, Panthers or Jets than I would Auburn, but that’s just me.

Regardless, it’s coming this week. If you choose to let it drive you crazy and ruin the build-up to another Saturday in The Grove, that, frankly, is on you. If you let it consume you, your stress is your fault.

Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe this is Tuberville redux. I just highly doubt it. It’s illogical and I strongly suspect Kiffin feels the same way.

Yes, he was interested in the job two years ago. Things have changed. In today’s college football, two years might as well be two centuries. Kiffin now has a great thing at Ole Miss. I suspect it’ll take more than Auburn to seduce him away from it
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:20 am to
Do we actually know what Kiffins’s buyout is? You realize most buyouts are different for the coach to leave on his own vs the school firing him.

All i see is the Ole Miss AD saying it’s “healthy”. Whatever that means.
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:21 am to
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You can’t take snippets of lanes career that you don’t like. Look at it as a whole.





Snippets? Dude is a walking, talking controversy about to happen. Who quits as the OC of a team, right before the national championship game? He has a long history of shitting on his employers, going all the way back to the Raiders. It's just a matter of time before Ole Miss learns that. Dude has a screw loose. Al Davis saw it first, TN got a heavy dose. Saban probably hates him more than anybody on Earth. It's like our fans are the equivalent of some lonely guy, and willing to fall in love with the chick that that has an extensive history of cheating on every boyfriend she's ever had.

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Hired by USC.

Fired and left on the tarmac.

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Hired by UT
Quit after 1 season. Left in the middle of the night, Did not address his players.

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hired by Bama
Quit 1 week before the national championship game.

He talked shite PUBLICY about his employers when he was with the Raiders. The late AL Davis had this famous quote:
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"I think he conned me like he conned all you people,"


No doubt he can coach, but you'd better be prepared for the downside of Joey Freshwater. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:25 am to
Rhule is officially fired now
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:26 am
Posted by slacker130
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:26 am to
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From the Rebels Rivals mod



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Finally, in the new era of college football, Ole Miss just might be a better job.


Entire post is null and void with this crap in it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:28 am to
Don’t care. I thought it was well written
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:31 am to
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Entire post is null and void with this crap in it.


Ole Miss has won 6 SEC championships!

The last one was in 1963.

Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:36 am to
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Fired and left on the tarmac.



For better or worse, that was a lose lose because of the sanctions from the Pete Carroll era. But yeah, not a good look. And also now a never-ending meme.

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Quit after 1 season. Left in the middle of the night, Did not address his players.



Yeah, that one was bad. Especially the whole Asst. Coaches contacting early enrollees, telling them not to enroll, and to follow them to USC.

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Quit 1 week before the national championship game.


This isn't exactly being fair. He had already been hired as the HC at FAU at this point in time, and coached in the first Playoff game. Then Saban told him to get gone because he wasn't fully focused on the game with his new HC duties, so Sark, who was going to replace him as OC, got early promoted for the game.

That backfired, and then like a month later Sark left to be OC of the Falcons.

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The late AL Davis had this famous quote:
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"I think he conned me like he conned all you people,"


If Al Davis doesn't like you, there's a chance you're doing something right.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:38 am to
Rhule
2017 Baylor 1–11
2018 Baylor 7–6
2019 Baylor 11-3

2020: 5-11
2021: 5-12
2022: 1-4

No no no no no no thank you.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45272 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:39 am to
Talking about cherry picking data
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