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re: Auburn v Georgia Game thread.

Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Jones’s point is that yes, Nix made plenty of mistakes that he shouldn’t make, but we are consistently putting him behind the eight ball over and over again.

It was a horrible throw on the easiest pass of the game on the 4th down that literally killed our best shot of winning the game. It wasn’t just a simple bad pass, “we will get em next drive, coach!”

Welcome to the life of a QB. They get most of the glory, and most of the blame.


As for the amount of passing offense we saw, I would’ve been more concerned if we didn’t open the game up given their rush defense.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:46 pm to
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was a horrible throw on the easiest pass of the game on the 4th down that literally killed our best shot of winning the game. It wasn’t just a simple bad pass, “we will get em next drive, coach!”


Again, nobody is arguing against you here. You can drop the point. You’re arguing with yourself right now.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:46 pm to
It really isn't reasonable to put this all on nix. He missed a throw. I know you aren't a Gus fanboy so I know you're thinking this too, but at the end of the day it's all Gus' fault. He recruits, he coaches, and this season he calls the plays. We were only in that position for nixs miss to matter because of abysmal play in the first half by just about the entire offense.

We also missed a kick but that's neither here nor there.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:47 pm to
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Again, nobody is arguing against you here. You can drop the point. You’re arguing with yourself right now.

So who am I arguing with when Jones says Nix isn’t the problem, when he clearly was that play and then the next drive.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:47 pm to
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There is no reason why a coach, in his 7th year, should be starting a TF at QB


Did you see what I was responding to?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:48 pm to
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It really isn't reasonable to put this all on nix.

I’m not saying we didn’t have other issues.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26808 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:48 pm to
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Manziel

RSFreshman
Posted by Nortizzle
Posibarner™ Captain
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:49 pm to
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Bo was our fricking rushing leader too.


Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:50 pm to
I got nothing then.

Unless you count a DB playing his first year ever as a QB
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:52 pm to
You
quote:

Jones’s point is that yes, Nix made plenty of mistakes that he shouldn’t make, but we are consistently putting him behind the eight ball over and over again.

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Me: He should be behind the 8 ball. His last throw which can be completed by JV quaterbacks was crap and killed any chance of winning

You: “Nobody is arguing against this.”

lol
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22742 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:53 pm to
If you want to blame the whole loss on that play, then sure. We didn’t score in the first 3 quarters though.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35014 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:54 pm to
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So who am I arguing with when Jones says Nix isn’t the problem, when he clearly was that play and then the next drive.


I’m not sure, but you’re so absurdly focused on that one play, you are missing the forest for the trees of Jones’s comment.

Jones basically: “Nix made some extremely poor plays and some that cost us the game, but the coaches put together an awful game plan for a TF quarterback and have continuously put him in a terrible position all season, and having a different quarterback probably isn’t going to solve that issue. That is on the coaches.

What do you disagree with in that?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26808 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:54 pm to
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when he clearly was that play and then the next drive

What about the drop by Seth on third down on the next drive? What about the fact that the OL let two guys rush basically untouched on fourth down?

The big issue from the game and what killed it isn’t that the QB missed an easy throw, it’s that we couldn’t piss a drop the entire game and had to play balls to the wall to catch up. We had 25 yards in the third quarter... 25.

I get you were a Gatewood fan (as most of us were). But your insistence that Nix is the only thing separating us from being a great team is laughable.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11479 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Manziel did alright but that's about it.


Manziel never started as a TF. He was a RS freshman when he got his first start......something Gatewood did not get a chance to do.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:07 pm to
There were undoubtedly plays that could’ve been called differently, but there were lack of execution plays too. None bigger than that one. He’s got to perform there.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:19 pm to
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But your insistence that Nix is the only thing separating us from being a great team is laughable.

You didn’t get that from my language. Try again. I can show you a thousand posts that say otherwise. Apparently sharing the blame that can deservedly go around to others offends you though. Noted
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What about the drop by Seth on third down on the next drive?

We doing whataboutisms now? The first pass on the last drive was an errant pass. Second pass got ripped out of Seth Williams hands while getting mugged by not one, but two defenders.
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The big issue from the game and what killed it isn’t that the QB missed an easy throw, it’s that we couldn’t piss a drop the entire game and had to play balls to the wall to catch up. We had 25 yards in the third quarter... 25.

Yet despite all that, we still had two realistic chances to tie the game. I love these arguments though. Also heard them when we heard “if Auburn deserved to beat Virginia, we shouldn’t have let it come down to bad calls.” IIWII, we didn’t play like the Kansas City Chiefs quarters 1-3, yet that still doesn’t make an errant softball throw on 4th down and game any less important or costly. Nix was the thrower. QB gets all the glory and the blame.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:19 pm to
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but there were lack of execution plays too.


If you look back at my past post I have blamed execution.

At some point you must blame the one who prepares the players to execute. Something is off with the manner in which this offensive staff preps a team to play.

Every other staff except arkie in the SEC would have been undefeated with our talent and our schedule and would have played uga to a dog fight. Instead, Gus waits till Kirby goes into prevent to get back into the game only to be made to look like a fool once he comes out of prevent.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37142 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:22 pm to
I agree.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11479 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:28 pm to
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Did you see what I was responding to?



Yes. You posted the QB stats. Unfortunately for us, their QB made the passes that were crucial to the outcome, ours didn't.

Nix made errant throws in crucial times. That can not be denied.

I like Nix, and I think he may be a great QB one day, but that is unlikely if Malzahn is his coach.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49189 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:30 pm to
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think he may be a great QB one day, but that is unlikely if Malzahn is his coach.



Will not happen
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