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re: Auburn most miserable football fanbase

Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 am to
The older I've gotten the easier it is for me to just find something else to do.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:19 am to
Some of you have to come to grips with the reality of where the program REALLY was due to Gus' last couple of years and Harsin's 2 years...

The lack of talent was GLARING. Just look at the NFL Draft.
The talent has returned, the wins will come. I TRULY believe we beat Bama, & Georgia this season...
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17413 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Some of you have to come to grips with the reality of where the program REALLY was due to Gus' last couple of years and Harsin's 2 years...


We’ve been miserable because of 5 losing seasons. You could go back to 2021 and say, man we are in bad shape and it’s going to take 4-5 years to pull out of it. Awareness doesnt make the losing any better.

As of today, I don’t think we are the most miserable because we have a new season ahead and the talent is better and expectations are rising. After the bama game last year, yes, most miserable fan base for sure.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14296 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:17 pm to
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because we have a new season ahead and the talent is better and expectations are rising.


I’m amazed at your optimism. How can you possibly have expectations as an Auburn fan at this point
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13206 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:43 pm to
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How can you possibly have expectations


none?
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
4248 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:23 pm to
If it doesn’t get right this year, it’s not going to get right for a while, imo.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:15 am to
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I’m amazed at your optimism. How can you possibly have expectations as an Auburn fan at this point


Few reasons. It’s that time of year so maybe not all logical. Talent has gotten way better. Even with crappy coaching, that still leads to more wins.

Here is the thing, I have expectations, but I’m not sure I yet have belief and faith. The difference is I expect improvement. It’s year 3, talents much better. I expect we do better. There should be higher expectations. Can Freeze get it done? That’s where belief and faith come in and that’s where I’m conflicted.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8929 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:01 am to
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The lack of talent was GLARING. Just look at the NFL Draft.



Didn't follow the draft. How'd Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mizzou, and Vandy do in the draft?

What is GLARING is we lose to less talented teams, AT HOME. Freeze seems apathetic about winning and always has some excuse.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69455 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:07 am to
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Some of you have to come to grips with the reality of where the program REALLY was due to Gus' last couple of years and Harsin's 2 years...




There was plenty of talent in Gus's last season. Other than OT. Harsin ran all the talent off.

The big downfall started when Harsin was selected. And its not gotten any better at the coaching position.

Soon, we will need to dial up another coach.


Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
108078 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:27 am to
Gus had decent talent at a few spots but one of the most important for the offense he made it one of the weakest in the SEC. offensive line coaching and talent was shite.

Harsin sucked turkey giblets and I’m not sure Hugh will win enough. I’m not a fan of the “humble preacher” who shares his sins and weaknesses during pressers. He recruits well, he works hard but I want a killer instinct not Andy from Mayberry. I hope to hell he proves he can win.



Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69455 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:32 am to
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He recruits well,


Its the only thing he is doing well and honeslty, is it even recruiting anymore or is it shopping?

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:00 am to
It doesn’t really matter what it is now, we still need someone able to do it.

Although I am not where you’re at in Hugh needs to go, I do expect a lot from him this season and I am not convinced he can take this program where I want to see it consistently be, but I’m holding off on grabbing the pitchfork.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39613 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:29 am to
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Didn't follow the draft. How'd Cal, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mizzou, and Vandy do in the draft?


Cal - 1 more draft pick than us
Arky - 1 less draft pick than us
Oklahoma - 1 less draft pick than us
Mizzou - same # of draft picks
Vandy - 2 less draft picks

I'd argue outside of Vandy, largely a push on talent.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69455 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:49 am to
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Although I am not where you’re at in Hugh needs to go, I



Im not really in the he has to go camp. Im in the he sucks at coaching Auburn football camp. He was a desperation hire after a terrible hire. He was basically what they could get hire

Its pretty typical for Auburn for a very long time. I dont see that changing any time soon. It is a toxic job that very few excellent coaches want so you get these types of hires. History proves it. Occasionally one of them does great things.

I just dont see him being one of them,


Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17413 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:50 am to
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I am not convinced he can take this program where I want to see it consistently be, but I’m holding off on grabbing the pitchfork.


Haven’t grabbed the torch and pitchfork, but it’s within arms length and there is a very grim glare in coach’s direction.

In the end, I’m not to a point of belief, but I’m sure hoping he gets it done because that benefits us all.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39613 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:55 am to
From day 1, he was going to have 3-4 years to get the roster competitive and see what he can do. Hell, even those that were cheering for Deon, one of their main arguments was he'd rebuild the roster and if he fails, so be it at least we will have players again . Last year's performance drastically changed trajectories there, but I really don't get the rest of the attitudes around this by many. If he fails, he fails and we move on. He is recruiting well. If we move on, we are a much more attractive roster for the next coach.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
17413 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:55 pm to
Deion would be a much larger risk today because of the portal now. Also could negate the advantage of Hugh recruiting. I knew the portal was an issue 3 years ago, but didn’t realize it would quickly turn into unlimited free agency for college players.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39613 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:01 pm to
For sure. I wasn't super on board for either option. I just don't see the point of screaming he is going to fail at every opportunity for three years just for the chance that you (not you specifically) may get to say I told you so if he does fail

That being said, probably is why we rank where we do in the OP
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19482 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:55 pm to
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Im not really in the he has to go camp. Im in the he sucks at coaching Auburn football camp. He was a desperation hire after a terrible hire. He was basically what they could get hire

Its pretty typical for Auburn for a very long time. I dont see that changing any time soon. It is a toxic job that very few excellent coaches want so you get these types of hires. History proves it. Occasionally one of them does great things.

I just dont see him being one of them,
that part

lets be honest, AU football has made one hire in the last 40+ years of a guy in wide demand for upper tier jobs, that was Tubs

Freezus was the GOB-approved lazy hire, maybe he will do great things this year, but i see no evidence thats likely to happen
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69455 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:04 pm to
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From day 1, he was going to have 3-4 years to get the roster competitive and see what he can do.


If he would have made some hay with what he had, Id be fine with loses. But he didnt. He continues to get out coached and lose games and he continues to get beat by teams with much less talent.

So why will getting more talent help him win games that he should win?


I think we have beat this horse to death.

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