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re: 2023 Recruiting

Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:51 pm to
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Saban is an overrated coach, X’s and O’s type of guy, he’s just a great recruiter. If he were a great “coach” he would have done a lot better in the NFL but he couldn’t have 32 1st round picks annually so he was exposed. frick that midget Joe Peterno 2.0.

Cristobal is a recruiter. Saban is a coach. How in the hell you got two upvotes I have no fricking clue. Recruiters don’t do what Saban has done with the amount of staff and player turnover he has lived with.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19465 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:57 pm to

I remember reading an article some time ago where they said one of the few times Saban was truly pissed at a former coach of his was Dabo. When Dabo got to Clemson one of the first people he snagged was the recruiting coordinator for Alabama and installed the same system.

I hope we can do the same, with the portal we are going to need another full division of people to keep up with that integral part of recruiting. And the whole NIL piece, it may be technically not a part of the school but there will have to be integration given the fact you are dealing with 85 potential annual contracts, salary budgets for incoming HS and portal kids, etc.

The head coaches will become even more CEO types and leave the Xs and Os to the coordinators (you heard Freeze allude to this).

Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
616 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Saban is an overrated coach, X’s and O’s type of guy, he’s just a great recruiter.


Who cares what label you want to put on it, he is a master mind for going all out in recruiting. He changed the game.
Urban Meyer at UF and FSU of the 90s are the only two programs that have come anywhere close to what he has done in recruiting.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4731 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Cristobal is a recruiter. Saban is a coach. How in the hell you got two upvotes I have no fricking clue. Recruiters don’t do what Saban has done with the amount of staff and player turnover he has lived with.


I don’t think Saban is the greatest in-game coach, But he is a helluva
coach on the practice field teaching fundamentals and discipline which carries over to the playing field, which still makes him a very good coach.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52474 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Who cares what label you want to put on it, he is a master mind for going all out in recruiting. He changed the game. Urban Meyer at UF and FSU of the 90s are the only two programs that have come anywhere close to what he has done in recruiting.

First upvote.


Imagine calling the greatest HC of all time “just a great recruiter.”
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52474 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:01 pm to
Agreed
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52474 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:03 pm to
Arik Gilbert to the port hole.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:04 pm to
Guys got all the potential in the world but mentally he most certainly has some serious issues.
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
3599 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Cristobal is a recruiter. Saban is a coach. How in the hell you got two upvotes I have no fricking clue. Recruiters don’t do what Saban has done with the amount of staff and player turnover he has lived with.

If he’s a great coach then why did he fail in the NFL? Because he’s a baby back bitch with a little man syndrome.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20858 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:12 pm to
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Arik Gilbert to the port hole.


Send up the signal!
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29797 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:13 pm to
saban is like Jimmy Johnson. Get saban in a tight game and he will do dumb things. Jimmy Johnson admitted x's and o's weren't his forte. Evaluating talent is what he was outstanding at. saban is the same way.
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2158 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:15 pm to
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Saban is an overrated coach


Dumbest thing I’ve seen on this board. He has six national championships in 15 seasons at Alabama. He is the greatest college football COACH of all time.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22554 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:15 pm to
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If he’s a great coach then why did he fail in the NFL?


He’s was like .500 in two seasons… he wasn’t bum Phillips.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
3118 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:17 pm to
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If he’s a great coach then why did he fail in the NFL? Because he’s a baby back bitch with a little man syndrome.
He's a great college football coach because it's a completely different sport from the coach's perspective than the NFL. The things he is best at are some of the most important things in the college game... recruiting, development, and creating structure for 18-22 year olds that they get on board with.

In the NFL - scheme, roster management, and in-game strategy become much more important, while recruiting is a 0 and creating structure is still somewhat important but vastly less so.

Both leagues are playing the same sport but they're totally different games from a coaching perspective.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
3599 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:20 pm to
Freeze is a X’s and O’s guy and a recruiter. When was the last time the west Alabama midget called plays on the field?
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6009 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:27 pm to
Some of you don't know shite about football or you're letting your hatred of Bama cloud your judgment. Saban is the best that's ever done it. It really, really sucks that he has done it at Bama but he has.
That said we finally have someone leading our program that knows what it takes to compete with him.
Act like beating our rival isn't one of the most important qualifications for the the job but Bama losing 6 in a row to Auburn is why Saban was hired.
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2158 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:27 pm to
Being a great coach is more than just playcalling
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:44 pm to
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Saban is an overrated coach, X’s and O’s type of guy, he’s just a great recruiter. If he were a great “coach” he would have done a lot better in the NFL but he couldn’t have 32 1st round picks annually so he was exposed. frick that midget Joe Peterno 2.0.


you’re 100% wrong
Posted by ShredSquatch
Parts Unkownn
Member since Jan 2015
1184 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:54 pm to
Lots of bama panties showing in this thread huh?

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108598 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:10 pm to
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If he’s a great coach then why did he fail in the NFL?


Steve Spurrier didn’t fair too well in the NFL either. Would you say he is a very good coach? I would

Bro, just take the loss on this one. We all can’t bat a 1000.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 7:14 pm
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