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Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:33 am to Rhino5
It’s definitely possible Freeze could turn Ashford into something. I’m just not for relying on that.
Bring in another guy that we know can do something and then if Ashford turns into something, Freeze should figure that out in practice.
Bring in another guy that we know can do something and then if Ashford turns into something, Freeze should figure that out in practice.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:33 am to Weagle25
I am open to Ashford competing for the QB job against a Georgia backup in fall practice.
May the most dynamic win.
Anybody that disagrees is nuts.
So what’s the issue here.
May the most dynamic win.
Anybody that disagrees is nuts.
So what’s the issue here.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:34 am to TheJones
Unofficial tracker for the class - Tuesday Morning
2023 Commitments (15):
4* RB Jeremiah Cobb
4* DL Darron Reed
4* S Sylvester Smith
4* WR Daquayvious Sorey
4* S Terrance Love
4* Edge Wilky Denaud
4* OL Clay Wedin
4* IOL Bradyn Joiner
3* OL Connor Lew
3* CB Colton Hood
3* OT Tyler Johnson
3* DB JC Hart
3* DE Brenton Williams
3* DL Stephen Johnson
3* QB Keyone Jenkins (PWO)
Committed Transfers:
4* TE Rivaldo Fairweather
HS Trending to Auburn:
4* DB Kayin Lee
4* Izavion Miller (JUCO)
4* OT Isaiah Jatta (JUCO)
3* WR Eric Singleton Jr
3* DB Braeden Marshall
3* S Tyler Scott
Transfers trending to Auburn
4* WR Donte Thornton - Oregon
4* RB Dillon Johnson - MSU
OL Amari Kight - Bama
3* OL Ben Scott - Arizona State
DL Dion Wilson - Arizona
DE Elijah McAllister - Vanderbilt
HS -In the mix for:
5* DT James Smith
5* Edge Qua Russaw
4* DB Tony Mitchell
4* OL DJ Chester
4* OT Bo Hughley
4* LB Stanquan Clark
4* DL Keldric Faulk
3* S CJ Johnson
3* RB Jamarion Wilcox
3* DL Justin Benton
3* LB Bryan Longwell
Transfers in the mix for:
4* QB Grayson McCall - Coastal Carolina
4* QB Devin Leary - NC State
OL Jordan Brown - Charlotte
4* WR Rara Thomas - MSU
WR Kaden Prather - WVU
4* DL Trace Ford - OKST
4* OL Dillon Wade - Tulsa
DL Omarr Norman-Lott - Arizona State
3* OT - Walter Rouse - Stanford
2023 Commitments (15):
4* RB Jeremiah Cobb
4* DL Darron Reed
4* S Sylvester Smith
4* WR Daquayvious Sorey
4* S Terrance Love
4* Edge Wilky Denaud
4* OL Clay Wedin
4* IOL Bradyn Joiner
3* OL Connor Lew
3* CB Colton Hood
3* OT Tyler Johnson
3* DB JC Hart
3* DE Brenton Williams
3* DL Stephen Johnson
3* QB Keyone Jenkins (PWO)
Committed Transfers:
4* TE Rivaldo Fairweather
HS Trending to Auburn:
4* DB Kayin Lee
4* Izavion Miller (JUCO)
4* OT Isaiah Jatta (JUCO)
3* WR Eric Singleton Jr
3* DB Braeden Marshall
3* S Tyler Scott
Transfers trending to Auburn
4* WR Donte Thornton - Oregon
4* RB Dillon Johnson - MSU
OL Amari Kight - Bama
3* OL Ben Scott - Arizona State
DL Dion Wilson - Arizona
DE Elijah McAllister - Vanderbilt
HS -In the mix for:
5* DT James Smith
5* Edge Qua Russaw
4* DB Tony Mitchell
4* OL DJ Chester
4* OT Bo Hughley
4* LB Stanquan Clark
4* DL Keldric Faulk
3* S CJ Johnson
3* RB Jamarion Wilcox
3* DL Justin Benton
3* LB Bryan Longwell
Transfers in the mix for:
4* QB Grayson McCall - Coastal Carolina
4* QB Devin Leary - NC State
OL Jordan Brown - Charlotte
4* WR Rara Thomas - MSU
WR Kaden Prather - WVU
4* DL Trace Ford - OKST
4* OL Dillon Wade - Tulsa
DL Omarr Norman-Lott - Arizona State
3* OT - Walter Rouse - Stanford
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:34 am to TheJones
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Alright folks, for the sake of the thread, let’s try to reign in the Ashford discussion. We’ve got all off season to hash it out.
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Inb4 Jones yells at us for cluttering up the recruiting thread
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:35 am to metafour
Meta, you say those reads were scripted, but in Gus’s whole career I’ve never seen him get as mad at his own player like he did against Malik.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:38 am to jangalang
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I am open to Ashford competing for the QB job against a Georgia backup in fall practice.
Ashford vs Vandergriff gonna be a hell of a battle
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:40 am to Weagle25
I’m hoping for Leary. That dude can sling it.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:41 am to jvilletiger25
If Vandergriff is doing summer tiktok videos bet the house on Ashford
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:44 am to jangalang
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To be fair to Ashford us Freeze bashers were told Freeze could fix Ashford like he fixed Willis.
Be careful or you'll stir up Rocky.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:44 am to Weagle25
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Inb4 Jones yells at us for cluttering up the recruiting thread
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NOT an Ashford Thread

Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:46 am to jangalang
Just to be clear I am not arguing over Ashford. I don’t think he has the mental capacity to be significantly better than he is already even if what some claim about freeze being the QB whisperer. I would be glad to be proven wrong.
I will be happy to get a transfer in to push him, or that can be the guy.
I will be happy to get a transfer in to push him, or that can be the guy.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:47 am to jangalang
I will say I hope you all are ready for AU to throw a lot of interceptions. Kelly and Wallace did at Ole Miss and Willis even threw 12 at Liberty his last year. We've grown accustomed to interceptions being a rarity. Strip sacks too.
Freeze trusts his QB's to make plays. This is markedly different than we have seen at AU since maybe Terry Bowden?
I think OL and finding smart QB's is paramount to the Freeze tenure at Auburn. He has traditionally built in 15-20 turnovers a year for his starting QB.
Freeze trusts his QB's to make plays. This is markedly different than we have seen at AU since maybe Terry Bowden?
I think OL and finding smart QB's is paramount to the Freeze tenure at Auburn. He has traditionally built in 15-20 turnovers a year for his starting QB.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:47 am to TheJones
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4-star S Tony Mitchell
The buzz: Tony Mitchell has always been a wildcard. He is committed to Alabama, but he was at Texas A&M this past weekend and Auburn the weekend before that. Both schools are pushing hard to flip Mitchell from the Crimson Tide. At one time the Aggies were viewed as the biggest threat to Alabama, but that has shifted to Auburn. According to one source, Alabama should be a little worried about Auburn. — Chad Simmons
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Kayin Lee will enter Signing Day as an Ohio State commitment. Auburn is lurking though and the Tigers are a legit threat to the Buckeyes. One source feels Lee is headed for the SEC.
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Auburn is one to watch for Keldric Faulk. He is still communicating with the Tigers after visiting the in-state school Sunday. Florida State still has confidence they can hold on.
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Texas showed Tyler Scott a lot over the weekend, but this one is expected to come down to Auburn and USC late. The new staff at Auburn has made a strong impression on the Atlanta cornerback and his family.
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5-star DL James Smith and 5-star EDGE Qua Russaw
The buzz: These Montgomery (Ala.) Carver teammates went through this process together. They took most visits together, they met with coaches sometimes together and they still are expected to sign with the same school. Alabama has been in the best position over the last couple of months, and it will take a lot to change that late. Auburn is viewed as the biggest competition. James Smith did visit Auburn without Qua Russaw over the weekend. Florida and Georgia are not considered contenders here at the end. — Chad Simmons
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:48 am to jangalang
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Meta, you say those reads were scripted, but in Gus’s whole career I’ve never seen him get as mad at his own player like he did against Malik.
Ok, and?
28 carries for 309 yards. Those are the actual stats.
How many zone reads do you think he allegedly "screwed up"? It couldn't have been that many. So Malzahn got mad once or twice, and that's the rationale here? Malzahn also ran plays all the time that had zero hope of working, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove? Was Malzahn known for his elite evaluation of QB play?
There is this weird narrative to try to paint it as if Willis got into the game for Auburn and just looked hopeless. You are free to confirm the stats yourself: he never did anything to show that he was a bad football player. He just didn't get to play, because it turns out that Bo Nix was actually pretty good.
So really, what actually happened is that Malik Willis was likely a capable and promising QB who just so happened to be stuck behind another capable and promising QB (Nix). He wasn't some horrible QB that Freeze magically "developed" at Liberty. If he was a bad QB, Freeze never would have taken him in the first place.
With Ashford, the reality is that he was a backup on a team with no good QB's. He got to play a lot due to a lot of things going wrong, and he showed often why he was the backup to all of those guys. At his previous school, he was 3rd or 4th string. That isn't the same situation as Malik Willis at all. Malik Willis actually never dipped below 61.1% completion percentage in any of his 4 NCAA seasons.
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:49 am to metafour
Unofficial tracker for the class - Tuesday Morning
2023 Commitments (15):
4* RB Jeremiah Cobb
4* DL Darron Reed
4* S Sylvester Smith
4* WR Daquayvious Sorey
4* S Terrance Love
4* Edge Wilky Denaud
4* OL Clay Wedin
4* IOL Bradyn Joiner
3* OL Connor Lew
3* CB Colton Hood
3* OT Tyler Johnson
3* DB JC Hart
3* DE Brenton Williams
3* DL Stephen Johnson
3* QB Keyone Jenkins (PWO)
Committed Transfers:
4* TE Rivaldo Fairweather
DE Elijah McAllister - Vanderbilt
HS Trending to Auburn:
4* DB Kayin Lee
4* Izavion Miller (JUCO)
4* OT Isaiah Jatta (JUCO)
3* WR Eric Singleton Jr
3* DB Braeden Marshall
3* S Tyler Scott
Transfers trending to Auburn
4* WR Donte Thornton - Oregon
4* RB Dillon Johnson - MSU
OL Amari Kight - Bama
3* OL Ben Scott - Arizona State
DL Dion Wilson - Arizona
HS -In the mix for:
5* DT James Smith
5* Edge Qua Russaw
4* DB Tony Mitchell
4* OL DJ Chester
4* OT Bo Hughley
4* LB Stanquan Clark
4* DL Keldric Faulk
3* S CJ Johnson
3* RB Jamarion Wilcox
3* DL Justin Benton
3* LB Bryan Longwell
Transfers in the mix for:
4* QB Grayson McCall - Coastal Carolina
4* QB Devin Leary - NC State
OL Jordan Brown - Charlotte
4* WR Rara Thomas - MSU
WR Kaden Prather - WVU
4* DL Trace Ford - OKST
4* OL Dillon Wade - Tulsa
DL Omarr Norman-Lott - Arizona State
3* OT - Walter Rouse - Stanford
2023 Commitments (15):
4* RB Jeremiah Cobb
4* DL Darron Reed
4* S Sylvester Smith
4* WR Daquayvious Sorey
4* S Terrance Love
4* Edge Wilky Denaud
4* OL Clay Wedin
4* IOL Bradyn Joiner
3* OL Connor Lew
3* CB Colton Hood
3* OT Tyler Johnson
3* DB JC Hart
3* DE Brenton Williams
3* DL Stephen Johnson
3* QB Keyone Jenkins (PWO)
Committed Transfers:
4* TE Rivaldo Fairweather
DE Elijah McAllister - Vanderbilt
HS Trending to Auburn:
4* DB Kayin Lee
4* Izavion Miller (JUCO)
4* OT Isaiah Jatta (JUCO)
3* WR Eric Singleton Jr
3* DB Braeden Marshall
3* S Tyler Scott
Transfers trending to Auburn
4* WR Donte Thornton - Oregon
4* RB Dillon Johnson - MSU
OL Amari Kight - Bama
3* OL Ben Scott - Arizona State
DL Dion Wilson - Arizona
HS -In the mix for:
5* DT James Smith
5* Edge Qua Russaw
4* DB Tony Mitchell
4* OL DJ Chester
4* OT Bo Hughley
4* LB Stanquan Clark
4* DL Keldric Faulk
3* S CJ Johnson
3* RB Jamarion Wilcox
3* DL Justin Benton
3* LB Bryan Longwell
Transfers in the mix for:
4* QB Grayson McCall - Coastal Carolina
4* QB Devin Leary - NC State
OL Jordan Brown - Charlotte
4* WR Rara Thomas - MSU
WR Kaden Prather - WVU
4* DL Trace Ford - OKST
4* OL Dillon Wade - Tulsa
DL Omarr Norman-Lott - Arizona State
3* OT - Walter Rouse - Stanford
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:50 am to TheJones
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4-star S Tony Mitchell
The buzz: Tony Mitchell has always been a wildcard. He is committed to Alabama, but he was at Texas A&M this past weekend and Auburn the weekend before that. Both schools are pushing hard to flip Mitchell from the Crimson Tide. At one time the Aggies were viewed as the biggest threat to Alabama, but that has shifted to Auburn. According to one source, Alabama should be a little worried about Auburn. — Chad Simmons
quote:
Kayin Lee will enter Signing Day as an Ohio State commitment. Auburn is lurking though and the Tigers are a legit threat to the Buckeyes. One source feels Lee is headed for the SEC.
quote:
Auburn is one to watch for Keldric Faulk. He is still communicating with the Tigers after visiting the in-state school Sunday. Florida State still has confidence they can hold on.
quote:
Texas showed Tyler Scott a lot over the weekend, but this one is expected to come down to Auburn and USC late. The new staff at Auburn has made a strong impression on the Atlanta cornerback and his family.
quote:
5-star DL James Smith and 5-star EDGE Qua Russaw
The buzz: These Montgomery (Ala.) Carver teammates went through this process together. They took most visits together, they met with coaches sometimes together and they still are expected to sign with the same school. Alabama has been in the best position over the last couple of months, and it will take a lot to change that late. Auburn is viewed as the biggest competition. James Smith did visit Auburn without Qua Russaw over the weekend. Florida and Georgia are not considered contenders here at the end. — Chad Simmons
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:50 am to TheJones
We just got Elijah Mcallister
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:52 am
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