re: 2023 Recruiting

Nick Saban’s first class was a few 4* with mostly 3*s.

Want to know why? Because even the GOAT still needed time to build relationships.

Shitting on Freeze’s recruiting when he’s been on the job 3 weeks and Harsin had done shite to recruit is asinine.

At least Shula left Saban something to build on for his first class.

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You can make all of the excuses in the world but at the end of the day it’s a failure

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But who’s failure is that?

If your answer is Freeze, then you’re a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for.

Jesus you’re a moron

Saban was hired at Bama Jan 3, 2007. About a month later, he signed a class in Feb.

That class finished 12th on the composite and his highest ranked HS recruit was 109th. He did have a JUCO kid that was ranked 2nd among jucos

So if we’re comparing this class to Saban’s, we should be starting with the ‘07 class when Saban had a month before the first signing day/period, similar to what Freeze is working with now.

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Saban was hired at Bama Jan 3, 2007. About a month later, he signed a class in Feb. That class finished 12th on the composite and his highest ranked HS recruit was 109th. He did have a JUCO kid that was ranked 2nd among jucos So if we’re comparing this class to Saban’s, we should be starting with the ‘07 class when both guys had a month before the first signing day/period

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Rivals was the major recruiting website at the time (247 and ON3 didn’t exist). According to them he signed the #10 class with a few top 100 recruits.

On rivals, Saban had 2 top 100 guys for the 07 class.

On rivals, Freeze has 1 so far. So by the bar you’ve set, he just needs another?

Edit : Freeze would need to flip Faulk and Mitchell to land 2 top 100 recruits on Rivals

Edit: Saban had 3, actually. They had a guy ranked 100 that I missed.

Many of who were Shula recruits. His 2006 class was 12th ranked so its not like Saban built a class ranked in the 50s like Freeze is having to do.

Caught that at in an edit. Apologies

Not a big difference still, IMO. Obviously Saban’s recruiting really took off afterward and the challenge for Freeze won’t be getting 3 top 100 guys in year 1. It’ll be getting high quality portal transfers in years 1 and 2, as well as starting to chip away at the high end talent gap moving forward.

I generally agree that any year without blue chip, top 50 type of guys is a failure on some level. I don’t agree that it’s mandatory in this current class but that’s mitigated by the fact that we can utilize the transfer portal

Eh, this has been a pretty normal conversation

Looking again at the Bama ‘07 class, they had 10 4*, 12 3* and an average recruit rating of 3.28

Auburn’s got 6 4*, 6 3*, and an average of 3.38. At this point in time, that 07 class has 2 more top 100 guys.

Ultimately, I’d expect these two classes to be pretty similar come NSD. But hard to know as of today. Freeze and company have a lot of work left to do