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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Yes & those guys have never missed on an individual ranking.


They miss all the time, but I think the better indicator was that our staff had them equally enough to take either without preference.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:25 pm to
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They miss all the time
You're normally spot on. I hope you realize my post was heavy sarcasm.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:58 pm to
I did
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:16 am to
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Yes & those guys have never missed on an individual ranking.



But in Randys defense, the rankings are right more than they are wrong


Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:22 am to
No, no it's just a total coincidence the teams that recruit at an elite level are generally the ones in the playoff every year.

It's always smarter to deal in outliers.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:39 am to
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No, no it's just a total coincidence the teams that recruit at an elite level are generally the ones in the playoff every year.

It's always smarter to deal in outliers.
You are taking a truth about recruiting on a macro level in terms of classes as a whole & applying it as an absolute on the micro, individual level. As Jonesy proved saying they miss many times, it doesn't work that way.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:47 am to
If the coaching staff needed recruiting ratings to confirm their thoughts on either/or first come first serve situations, I’d be concerned.

I don’t know why Pouncey jumped to Texas so quick though. Is Dennis silently committed?
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:05 am to
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If the coaching staff needed recruiting ratings to confirm their thoughts on either/or first come first serve situations, I’d be concerned.
Agreed

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I don’t know why Pouncey jumped to Texas so quick though. Is Dennis silently committed?
IDK. Now that I know he has a brother that plays for Texas it doesn't surprise me he picked Texas.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:07 am to
Also BJ Okulari told Rivals he is committing next Friday. AU is believed to be as in a good of a spot, if not better, with LSU & the Vols.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:42 am to
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Also BJ Okulari told Rivals he is committing next Friday. AU is believed to be as in a good of a spot, if not better, with LSU & the Vols


Nice.

And, Dennis v. Pouncy is not the same as a 5* vs a 3*. Our staff clearly has them valuated at the same level - plus with the JUCO guys coming in, neither Dennis or Pouncy will likely see the field for a few years, giving them time to develop. Not sure why anyone is concerned between the two.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:45 am to
Per usual, nobody is actually concerned but we’re arguing over peripheral topics anyways
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:11 am to
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Per usual, nobody is actually concerned but we’re arguing over peripheral topics anyways


Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:56 am to
I'm not applying any absolute. Dennis may end up the next Charles Woodson and Ethan Pouncey may quit after spring ball his freshman year and never play again. But, I'd rather have a guy ranked in the top 100 over a guy barely sneaking in the Top 247 100 times out of 100. Hopefully this will be one of the cases where the "experts" got it wrong.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:56 am to
Ojulari appears to be trending to LSU. The LSU reporter for Rivals has picked BJ to LSU. While the 2 LSU 247 reporters haven't put picks in yet they are very confident for LSU.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:58 am to
Haha, got to love the recruiting roller coaster.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:10 am to
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But, I'd rather have a guy ranked in the top 100 over a guy barely sneaking in the Top 247 100 times out of 100.
The composite is better than 247. Ethan is 156 there which is a mid level 4*. Dennis is 338, a low level 4*. As another poster implied, not much of a difference overall in a mid level 4* & a low level 4*.
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"experts" got it wrong.
You do realize our & most coaching staffs are much better experts that guys at a recruiting site right? If these guys were really experts they'd be coaching instead of working for a recruiting site. Given the track record of our defensive staff's evaluation & development, if they see 2 guys around the same level as they do with Dennis & Pouncey here, then that should be good enough for us fans.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:26 am to
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If these guys were really experts they'd be coaching instead of working for a recruiting site.


Evaluating talent and being able to recruit and coach it are two completely different things.

Whatever, just get Ga'Quincy in 2021 and it'll be all good.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:31 am to
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Whatever, just get Ga'Quincy in 2021 and it'll be all good.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4141 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Ojulari appears to be trending to LSU. The LSU reporter for Rivals has picked BJ to LSU. While the 2 LSU 247 reporters haven't put picks in yet they are very confident for LSU.
That sucks.. Outside of Tank he's probably my biggest want at the moment. Hope out staff can make something happen in the next week.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13449 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:43 pm to
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That sucks.. Outside of Tank he's probably my biggest want at the moment. Hope out staff can make something happen in the next week.


Maybe Donnell Harris is more of a target than we think??
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