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Where exactly is Pot legalization in Arkansas

Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:54 am
I live out of state and don’t follow as closely, but I’m always intrigued with pot legalization. Seems like I remember a lot of road blocks. Are there places to get it now? Are physicians prescribing? Do you know from personal experience?
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:43 am to
It's only for medical and it hasn't even been instituted yet for sale I believe. The 5 industrial indoor growing permits will be issued Feb 27 to huge companies then 32 dispensers (4 per designated zone) will best set up around the state. Many are also applying for a shop.

Only 22 doctors in state are able to write prescriptions as of now. 18 designated ailments that qualify for a scrip.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:17 am to
I'm a card holder in Illinois. They've been medical for a few years. It's nothing like what you see on tv like Colorado.

Dispensary's are spread out and in designated regions. Growers are same way. Some growers can distribute to other regions, but most products are from a few companies.

Application wasn't hard for me because as a veteran I could self submit with a qualifying condition. However, there are not a lot of conditions that are on the list. Doctors don't prescribe either, they support. Most doctors won't.

I'd assume Arkansas will be the same way/structure starting out. I think it took 70 days for approval before I got my card.

Feel free to ask me any questions. Even people who have doubts and concerns. Also, Illinois has strict gun laws and we are required a FOID (Firearms Owner Identification Card) thru the state police to buy ammo and posses guns. However, medical marijuana does not take that right away.
Posted by ThundrHawg
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Where exactly is Pot legalization in Arkansas


They are dragging their feet as much as humanly possible and will put as many restrictions on it as they can in order to thwart the will of the voters in the name of "values".


Cocksuckers.....
Posted by VagueMessage
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:26 pm to
What are the 18 ailments?
Posted by Rzrbackguy
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:34 am to
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Also, Illinois has strict gun laws and we are required a FOID (Firearms Owner Identification Card) thru the state police to buy ammo and posses guns.


Not trying to be snaky at all, but these (gun control laws) are really working well in Chicago.

If you want to use marijuana, that is a choice you can make as its certainly not hard to get. If you use it as responsibly as the medical permit actually calls for then you'll almost surely never have a problem (no use in public, no driving under the influence, basically sitting at home and smoking it).

Personally, I feel the other costs to society from permissive use will wipe out the so called gains from tax revenue that this is a big negative. That's pretty much been proven in Colorado and other states that have advanced beyond the original 'medical' claim.

I have smoked pot, but don't any longer. I do enjoy good bourbon responsibly. I'm not against pot smokers who are responsible, but I'd prefer not to see my tax dollars used to clean up the messes that are highly likely to result as we make this 'ok'. I'm not suggesting people shouldn't or won't use pot or alcohol. Its just my opinion that this isn't necessary and will lead to an eventual worse situation than we have today.

Its a fact that as 'legal' marijuana becomes available, the illegal elements that were benefitting from producing it move right on to other, more dangerous drugs. If you don't realize that almost no meth is cooked in Arkansas anymore because the Mexican gangs have moved into that as pot lost its profitable appeal then you just need to go talk to a knowledgeable cop or DEA agent.

My old, conservative self is out on this issue. Right and wrong don't change their definitions because we'd like them to.

This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 8:35 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:41 pm to
Rzrbackguy is spot on

I voted for medical marijuana in Arkansas, but I will never vote for recreational legalization

I've heard first hand horror stories about Colorado, from Coloradans, and you can also see that industry startups in Seattle, Portland and Denver are now trending downward.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:53 pm to
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I've heard first hand horror stories
Share with the class? I've heard nothing but positive things from recreational legalization. Not doubting you, I just hadn't come across anything. Last I saw investing in dispensaries was free money.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:14 pm to
lazy arse feral hippies laying all over the sidewalks demanding that "old people" give them money because they got the munchies and stuff

edit: i.e., Colorado is overrun with young people from all over the country moving there to literally lay around on the sidewalks and be douchebag fricktards and smoke pot.


sorry I don't believe you when you say you've heard "nothing but positive things" from recreational - not being an arse, I just don't think you're allowing yourself to hear negatives

I've smoked pot as a youngster, even into my late thirties a few times. I'm not hating on anyone who does it occasionally. I'd never report my neighbors when I smell it drift into my back yard. Hell I like the smell and I tip my wine glass to them.

the medical marijuana lobby activists always said "oh no, no one is trying to argue recreational by getting medical voted in first." Okay then, so don't start now.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:51 pm to
I can totally see the congregation of lazy asshats happening, but don't you think that would subside a bit if recreational became legal everywhere? Would be a lot less noticeable if they didn't all have to live in one area to do (or not do) whatever they wanted. People were lazy and broke before weed became legal. People asking for handouts isn't anything exclusive to the legalization of weed, either. No doubt the crowds mix, but I don't think that alone is a reason to call legalizing an otherwise perfectly non-damaging way of blowing off steam/relaxing/winding down after work a bad idea when cigs and alcohol are both perfectly legal. Lazy, substance abusing asshats are going to be lazy, substance abusing asshats regardless of what's legal and what isn't.

I've never been on a huge soapbox for/against weed, but it seems like it's getting blamed for people being idiots similar to the treatment guns are getting now.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

if recreational became legal everywhere?


so you've just butchered the 10th amendment to the constitution

you've "required" all 50 states agree with you on pot legalization, to possibly alleviate problems
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:27 pm to
It was a hypothetical scenario that started with "If". Nothing "required" by anyone and the same hypothetical can be used if even a handful more states approve recreational. The point is not having legalization be confined to one specific area so that people both irresponsible and responsible aren't forced to congregate in one area further magnifying any potential issues. Calm your tits.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:31 pm to
I was totally calm when I typed it

still calm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:33 pm to
Calm enough to stop at the second half of the first sentence and completely ignore the rest of the post while choosing to argue semantics instead of the actual topic of debate.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:34 pm to
Yes. I stopped at the second sentence. Yes I did.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:37 pm to
And there's the proof that further discussion with you is pointless and why talking about anything like this bears no positive outcome 99% of the time. People have no clue how to debate without shutting themselves down when the other side is pitched.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:39 pm to
pot is not a soapbox issue for me

dumbassery is

also, hard drugs is - William Bennett in the 90's argued for the death penalty for dealers of hard drugs like heroin, meth and crack, drugs that kill people. I agree with William Bennett on that and I would love to see it happen.

I've asked pot legalization activist before if they would compromise and agree on that issue, and they always say no. People die from hard drugs. And not one of the pot legalization folks I've spoken to give a shite.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:41 pm to
It's not "proof" of anything. I didn't "shut down" because you don't understand the Bill of Rights.

stop whining and excuse making and pretending it's smart of you to do
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 3:50 pm to
Why would pot activists give a shite about meth dealers? It doesn't effect their current objective at all. We went from talking about recreational weed legalization to death penalty for hard drug dealers. It's like Thanksgiving with my drunk uncle.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/18/18 at 4:01 pm to
Maybe I am your drunk uncle.

Did you ever consider that?
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