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We hired Pittman because….

Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19026 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:57 am
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“When they interviewed Sam, and he didn’t ask how much did the job pay, they did a handshake and a contract within 30 minutes,” Hall said.



We could have had

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As for Sanders, Hall said the Arkansas leaders were impressed with him, his enthusiasm, but without recruiting or coaching experience, there was some pause.



Such an Arkansas move
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:08 am to
Not one damn person was asking for Sanders even last year.

And in 3 weeks after loss to Oregon and USC, 95% of his hype will be gone.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:08 am to
We hired him because Morris was such a failure that they wanted to go safe. The Brass at Arkansas are scared to take a chance. They can do that because people still go to the games.
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1138 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:18 am to
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We hired him because Morris was such a failure that they wanted to go safe. The Brass at Arkansas are scared to take a chance. They can do that because people still go to the games.


Hiring a 60-year-old lifetime position coach was not going safe. It was the only guy they could get.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:09 am to
Sanders would have been great but it is unfair to think that people would have loved that hire.

Some were confused/upset he was interviewed or taken serious in the first place from what I remember.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:40 am to
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It was the only guy they could get.


When your only offering a low salary, broken spirit of players, and AD who wants someone to make chicken salad out of chicken shite, when it comes to football… that’s what you get.

I’m not out on Yuracheck, but he screwed us by not going for it with Lane.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:09 am to
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Hiring a 60-year-old lifetime position coach was not going safe. It was the only guy they could get.

Are we still going with this bullshite?

We could have had Kiffin or Prime. They wanted to go safe and cheap.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21250 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:15 am to
Prime wasn't qualified and didn't have any coaching experience on the college level.

He had to go to Jackson State to get some after interviewing with Arkansas.

Never cared for Kiffin.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:18 am to
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Prime wasn't qualified and didn't have any coaching experience on the college level.

He had to go to Jackson State to get some after interviewing with Arkansas.


It's never to late to fix it. Surely we can compete with the mighty buffalo athletic department
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1138 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:22 am to
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We could have had Kiffin or Prime. They wanted to go safe and cheap.



Kiffin chose Ole Miss. Don't fall for the "we walked away from him!"

I don't blame them for not hiring Deion Sanders at the time.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:30 am to
Kind of like how we didn't think Gus had the required experience a few times, and then we got to watch his Auburn teams beat us 7 out of 8 times we played.

It's pretty ridiculous. We make coaching hires based on emotions and who kisses the right amount of committee or athletic director arse.

Chad was an anomaly, and the result of allowing a woman to make a coaching hire.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:32 am to
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Are we still going with this bullshite?

We could have had Kiffin or Prime. They wanted to go safe and cheap.


Yeah, we are rich in every department athletically. Just somehow when it comes to football we can't manage to hire well.

Dumbfricks who buy the he company line of "we can't get anyone to come here" when all they have to do the past decade is watch places like TCU, Baylor, etc compete, but they still spout it.

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:37 am to
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Kiffin chose Ole Miss. Don't fall for the "we walked away from him!"


Honestly he made the right choice. Ole Miss had good talent and a really bad head coach. He walked into a steak and blowjob deal there. We were the worst P5 team in the country and probably a Bottom 10 worst team at the FBS level.

Look... it might be time to consider easing Pittman out the door, but folks shouldn't think we were sitting on the sort of talent the Green Bay Packers had in the 60s or something. We were a colossal dumpster fire under Chad and Pittman was one of the few that was willing to take the job.

We hired him to right the ship. Pittman pulled that off. It might be time to give him a really nice retirement and bring in someone new but I don't think fans should delude themselves that we were this golden opportunity back then. We were a program that you went too to watch your coaching career die.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:38 am to
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leaders were impressed with him, his enthusiasm, but without recruiting or coaching experience, there was some pause.


I agree wholeheartedly with this.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21250 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:53 pm to
More often than not, you hire unqualified coaches and you end up with bad results.

Sam has been coaching since 1984, Prime since 2012.

Sam was more qualified.

What would have happened if Arkansas hired prime and the whole thing collapsed?

Arkansas would be back to ground zero again.

That fault doesn't belong to Yuracheck when Prime shouldn't have waited til his late 40s to get into coaching.

Get the experience, show some results that show proof and you wouldn't need to coach at Jackson State.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22773 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:20 pm to
not on the prim train myself.

Too much "prime" not enough program. He is an incredible self promoter. And he really hasn't done that much yet...

The hype he brings has brought in the caliber of talent he currently has at colorado.

I really would like to see what happens when things go a bit south with his personality. Scorched earth more than likely.

Kiff wasn't going to come to Arkansas... I just do not believe it. But, whatever. We are where we are, but much better than where we were. What is the next step?
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33056 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:35 pm to
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What is the next


Literally the million dollar question

Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3904 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:29 pm to
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And in 3 weeks after loss to Oregon and USC, 95% of his hype will be gone.


He's not supposed to win either one of those games. He wasn't supposed to beat TCU, and Colorado State was a toss-up. They realistically could have started 0–5. Colorado went 1–11 last year. The man has gargantuanly overachieved and everyone knows it.

That said, yes, I would have been upset if we'd hired him.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1138 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:25 am to
Colorado State was not a toss up. Not trying to shite on Deion but that game was supposed to be a blowout.

They have played 3 teams where they are equal or better in talent (TCU had no reason being a 21pt fav).

Will be interesting to see how they do.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:44 am to
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What is the next step?

Hopefully Sam stepping down and we find a football version of Musselman. Someone that has an obsession with football and knows how to evaluate portal players.
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