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re: The time is now to move on from Pittman

Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:22 pm to
You buddy.

Sexy rexy.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:29 pm to
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recruit harder than he ever has


That wouldn’t take much effort
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:30 pm to
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go back to page one and read what I wrote I asked him to show some fricking respect to the guy who has tried to pull us out of the fricking mess created by your beloved powers that be


Maybe, just once, instead of being a schizophrenic low IQ crybaby pussy boomer and devolving every thread into a shitfest where you put on a marvelous display of dipshittery, you should read my post history.

But you’re too stupid to do that. You just reach into the same old bag of used up hack responses like:

“you probably post on Hogville”
“you probably subscribe to Trey Biddy”
“you probably make excuses for the GOBN/PTB/donor illuminati”
“you probably read and/believe everything Mike Irwin or Wally Hall spew”
“you’re probably a libtard”

It’s like a HRV greatest hits album. Do the one about how I was probably a Nutt hugger next.

Just stop. You’re way out of your league.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:31 pm
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
719 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:30 pm to
I absolutely hate to agree with Harry but he's earned at least another year. He's brought us back a long way and we lost 3 games by a score.

Disappointing season for sure. Dropped 3 games we shouldn't of, at fricking all. But what sticks out to me is the dumbfrickery of the offense regularly, mass defensive injuries, QB performance and offensive line performance. Throw in the secondary performance but a lot of their issues were due to injury.

Overall I think I'd like to see Briles move on. Barry is on thin AF ice but I just think this year couldve gone way better with better o line protection and better QB decision making.

Not sure how much of that to put on the players or how much to put on the offensive staff...Pittman has proven to be a hell of an Oline coach so I think those comments are way out of line by usually level headed posters...i question the players ability more than anything on the O line.

Qb--I kind of put it on Briles to coach up his guys better... We've got some awesome athletes at that position but decision making there leaves a lot to be desired.

Edit: EAD HRV
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Overall I think I'd like to see Briles move on. Barry is on thin AF ice but I just think this year couldve gone way better with better o line protection and better QB decision making.


Agreed.

If Pittman stays, Briles has to go. A CEO coach can’t turn both coordinators over, so Briles is the odd man out.

Odom’s D sucked at times this year but has a bit of a get out of jail free card due to injuries and newcomers.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29587 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:44 pm to
I prefer to keep him.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:51 pm to
Arkansas is in a tough spot but still familiar territory.

You fire him then the backlash from the outside would be complete hell. You keep him and you are looking at a losing season next year and possibly after.

Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:52 pm to
I doubt both move on or one and not the other.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:00 pm to
Saw this on Twitter, but you can’t afford to have a lame duck/dead man walking year in the age of the portal and NIL.

I would argue that if we’d have fired Bert after the 2016 season instead of entering a 2017 year in which we knew what would likely happen, we wouldn’t have been in a situation where we sold out for Gus and ultimately derped into hiring Chad Morris.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30934 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:10 pm to
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Saw this on Twitter, but you can’t afford to have a lame duck/dead man walking year in the age of the portal and NIL.

I would argue that if we’d have fired Bert after the 2016 season instead of entering a 2017 year in which we knew what would likely happen, we wouldn’t have been in a situation where we sold out for Gus and ultimately derped into hiring Chad Morris.



agreed. Too much to lose if players aren't happy.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:20 pm to
Yes keeping Sam for another year could be used against him in recruiting because they can say that Sam after a disappointing season may not be at Arkansas next year, are you sure you want to go to Arkansas?

Firing Bert after the 2016 would have helped a lot because you have to look at the games and not the overall record.

If it was up to me then I would have a meeting with Sam and discuss the options of retirement. Move on before it goes back to Chad level. Because it is much easier to hit rock bottom then ascend to the top.
Posted by Hogssmellgood
Hog in Vol land
Member since Nov 2012
2163 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:58 pm to
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Odom’s D sucked at times this year but has a bit of a get out of jail free card due to injuries and newcomers.


Also in the 4 close losses this season (aggy, liberty, lsu, Missouri), it was the offense that shot themselves in the foot to keep us out of the games, not the defense. Though today the defense did struggle, especially in the first half. There are multiple instances in those losses where poor play calling or poor offensive game planning lost us games.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18165 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 11:43 pm to
So who are the good coordinators we could get?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47286 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:11 am to
You're the one bringing up HV

I was banned from there years ago but you're the Hogville type, so it's strange you bring them up
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47286 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:18 am to
I'm out of my league, got it, I'm no match for supposed grown men who bleed their pussies all over the board without trying to understand the trajectory of who has done what and when
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47286 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:19 am to
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EAD HRV



I don't know what that means
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47286 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:23 am to
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back to Chad level



Chad level was 2-10 from day one
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 12:52 am to
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My guess is he'll go through next season and will retire to his house on Lake Hamilton.


He isn’t retiring as long as he can make 7m a year for that performance..
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17807 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 1:00 am to
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Arkansas is in a tough spot but still familiar territory. You fire him then the backlash from the outside would be complete hell. You keep him and you are looking at a losing season next year and possibly after.


Tough spot indeed, but I’d say it’s if you fire him you show that we are serious about winning and he’s hit his peak, but at the same time it could scare some coaches off knowing that they might get fired in year three after making three consecutive bowls.
This post was edited on 11/26/22 at 1:02 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 11/26/22 at 1:05 am to
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Yes keeping Sam for another year could be used against him in recruiting because they can say that Sam after a disappointing season may not be at Arkansas next year, are you sure you want to go to Arkansas?


Doesn’t matter with the portal, does it?
Never thought I would see kids just quitting 3 games left in the year, and will probably hit the portal and be picked up.
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