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re: The Briles Offense.

Posted on 12/24/19 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 8:36 pm to
Defensive perspective of the Briles offense: LINK
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West Virginia defensive coordinator Keith Patterson: Baylor attack 'catastrophic in a lot of ways to our psyche'
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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 8:52 pm to
LINK
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The Architect

How Art Briles and his potent offense have taken Baylor from conference doormat to national title contender

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The season before Art Briles’s arrival was more of the same for Baylor. In 2007, the fifth year under Guy Morriss, Baylor went 3-9 — good for its customary last-place finish in the Big 12 South. Since the first football game of Big 12 play, in 1996, the Bears had finished sixth on their side of the conference 11 times. The last time they’d been to a bowl, the Big 12 conference didn’t exist. The only time of the year Baylor was relevant in college football was when the other schools in the conference wanted to schedule their homecoming games.

Six years later, Briles has turned Baylor football into the state of Texas’s answer to the Oregon Ducks: fast players, fast tempo, and even faster scoring, all infused with a long drawl and a gunslinger’s mind-set. Over the past three seasons, Baylor — a 15,000-student private school in Waco — has gone 24-8 behind some of the best offenses in football, and it has done it with a revolving cast of players. 
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 9:38 pm to
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the fifth year under Guy Morriss, Baylor went 3-9 — good for its customary last-place finish

So Briles has experience cleaning up after shitty Texans named Morris(s).

Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 9:40 pm to
They use the TE in the backfield a lot. I could see Henry getting a lot of passes thrown to him in the flat and having a chance at a lot of RAC.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 9:47 pm to
basically were going to spread the field as wide as possible and then run some simple routes that complement each other and the spacing.

spacing field out also establishes running lanes.

TE is a good mismatch if he can catch.


this seems opposite of petrinos same play out of 15 formactions. it's more like 4 formations total and then play options based on defense or flow of gsme.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 12/25/19 at 5:55 pm to
5 years dude?

How would that even be possible unless he sucks arse?

I’ll be happy with 2-3 assuming he’s successful and moves onto being a HC with a nice soft spot for Fayetteville.
Posted by SpauldingHog
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Posted on 12/25/19 at 6:06 pm to
Yes 2-3 years is far more reasonable. But NWA is a great place. Its not impossible to think that they might enjoy it enough to stay here 5 years. Arkansas needs stability. Especially at the top.

Ante up and keep Odom and Briles as long as possible. Not sure why we wouldn't want to keep them 5 years. I'm just throwing out numbers on a message board. I'd like to see Arkansas good again.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 12/25/19 at 6:54 pm to
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But NWA is a great place.


Unless you want to be a head coach, and the UA has a coach.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 5:34 am to
Yea...
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 12:24 pm to
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basically were going to spread the field as wide as possible and then run some simple routes that complement each other and the spacing.

spacing field out also establishes running lanes.

TE is a good mismatch if he can catch.


this seems opposite of petrinos same play out of 15 formactions. it's more like 4 formations total and then play options based on defense or flow of gsme.



If you can find on youtube the draft evals on the Baylor QBs, the one right before rapegate, they do a good job of breaking down what the offense is and why the QBs in this offense are no where near NFL ready having played it.

Basically they do run the same play from multiple formations, same basic routes not matter the formation. WRs are split long so they don't necessarily have to block or run routes on run plays to take their defenders out of the play. It also keeps the corners from trying to crash run plays as the rec they leave will be open for a quick screen making most plays RPO.

Now as to why the QBs aren't NFL ready, they are not required to read the defense, the sideline handles any audibles. Each pass play has the field split into thirds, right/center/left, the pass is predetermined before snap as to which zone the ball will be thrown, rarely is there more than two levels the pass could be completed, a shallow/deep WR in the zone.

So the QB makes no presnap read, the QB doesn't read the defense during the play, WR open then throw, WR not open then run. Be prepared for complaints about the QBs staring down recs during interceptions.

The offense as a whole would be best be described as the veer with a legitimate pass threat which keeps the running game as an option, it is now way complex option that will be a NFL factory at all positions, which is fine in the sense Arkansas is in college, but may prove to be difficult to recruit NFL caliber QBs and possibly linemen, but you would figure Pitt would still focus on teaching the Oline the proper techniques and cross training the positions which the NFL would love. RBs/WRs/TEs should be easy to recruit, again you would think Pitt would focus on teaching each to run/pass block which was the biggest weakness from Baylor players of this position.
Posted by admiralduckwad
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:29 pm to
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why the QBs in this offense are no where near NFL ready having played it.


You telling me we can get to 8-10 wins with QBs that have no idea what they're doing?
Sign me up!
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 6:50 pm to
Yep,screw the NFL...Go Hogs!
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 6:53 pm to
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You telling me we can get to 8-10 wins with QBs that have no idea what they're doing?

NFL talented QBs make the NFL regardless of College System.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:01 pm to
Yup. If they got it, they got it.
Posted by admiralduckwad
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:39 pm to
Possibly why the same was said about system QBs was said about mahomes around the same time frame
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Each pass play has the field split into thirds, right/center/left, the pass is predetermined before snap as to which zone the ball will be thrown, rarely is there more than two levels the pass could be completed, a shallow/deep WR in the zone.

So the QB makes no presnap read, the QB doesn't read the defense during the play, WR open then throw, WR not open then run. Be prepared for complaints about the QBs staring down recs during interceptions.

this should also allow us to utilize less capable QB's, rather than absolutely needing a world beater leader with all the talent at QB.
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:12 pm to
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this should also allow us to utilize less capable QB's, rather than absolutely needing a world beater leader with all the talent at QB.



Perfect for the QB's left after the Chaggie Circus here on the Hill.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:23 pm to
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NFL talented QBs make the NFL regardless of College System.


Sure but of these guys the ones who actually know how to play the position from the start of their NFL careers actual stay on rosters. The NFL provides little to no on the job training.

This is why you see franchises hold on to these types of QBs until their bodies fail them.

I'm just stating why Briles sr and jr had QBs who put up huge numbers year after year but you don't see them become franchise QBs on the next level. It is obviously an easy transition to college for these QBs, especially from Texas since the same philosophy is taught on the HS level on a massive scale in this region.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:25 pm to
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this should also allow us to utilize less capable QB's, rather than absolutely needing a world beater leader with all the talent at QB.


It allows you to take the guy who was playing QB because he was the best athlete on his team and play him at QB using his athletic talent.

Normally the best athlete can be found playing QB for teams in this state, a perfect QB for this system is going to be at UNC because Chad was dead set on his son starting as a true frosh and being the savior of the program.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:50 pm to
No offense to Jerry's grandson,but I picture Chad's boy as being just like him.

A texas high school superstar not translating to the next level.
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