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Stupid Question: Why doesn't Enos just run an RPO-heavy offense from now on?
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:02 pm
Every college coach today knows and has plenty of RPO conceptual plays in their playbook. Hell, Briles didn't even have a playbook...
KJ and 80% of the team are far more familiar with RPO concepts than what they are running now.
If Sam doesn't turn the offense around, he will go 3-9 or 4-8 and likely be fired.
KJ and 80% of the team are far more familiar with RPO concepts than what they are running now.
If Sam doesn't turn the offense around, he will go 3-9 or 4-8 and likely be fired.
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Posted on 9/19/23 at 6:01 am to Jack Ruby
Per Fayette Villains, Enos has struggled to adapt and integrate RPOs in his system. Because he relies on called pass plays as opposed to option reads, we’re struggling. Conversely, Briles had a ton of RPO which compensated for our weakness at tackle last year.
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5. Enos has largely been a bad – or mediocre at best – offensive coordinator in his stints at Miami and Maryland since leaving Fayetteville. He’s struggled to incorporate modern trends like RPOs into his offense, making him a bit of a dinosaur.
6. I was very concerned that going from Briles to Enos could fail, because the Hogs are moving away from what it is innovative and modern (and thus advantageous) and into something more conservative, and thus more dependent on out-talenting the opponent. I wasn’t sure the Hogs were totally there yet. To do this during KJ Jefferson’s final season seemed incredibly risky. This offense does not well-suit Jefferson and Rocket Sanders’ skillsets.
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Again, there’s still time, but that #6 is not looking good. Enos’s offense is requiring Jefferson to throw more short and medium routes, and his accuracy on those has been a problem for his entire career. Briles shielded him with constant short, easy RPO throws or deep balls, where he’s much more accurate. Enos is asking him to be more complete, pro-style passer.
Briles also shielded Arkansas’ tackles, who were bad last year as well. RPOs allowed the Hogs to leave opposing edge rushers unblocked, but Enos calls more true passes, where the pocket has to hold up. Enos also prefers more long-developing pass concepts, so the line has to hold up longer. Everywhere that Enos has been, his offense works when the line is good, but the results are disastrous if the protection is poor. And it’s poor right now.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 6:03 am
Posted on 9/19/23 at 7:14 am to Feral
Any offense can work with the right personnel. The problem is the OL and the OL Coach. No offense would be able to run its system with this shitastic OL we have.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:50 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
You don't just "run a heavy RPO offense" There is a lot of timing and teaching of reads that has to take place. WRs have to understand space and cushion. QB has to be able to read windows and understand how to manipulate the conflict player.
Kind of hard to put in in a week.... not sure why this wasn't the plan from the beginning.
Kind of hard to put in in a week.... not sure why this wasn't the plan from the beginning.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:26 pm to ElDawgHawg
I guess Sam shouldn't have hired a shitty, philosophically opposite OC then...
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:51 pm to Jack Ruby
If I had time, I would go back and look at what we said when Enos was hired.
I for one thought It would would be a good hire. I remembered his success with Pittman/Bert getting Qbacks prepped. But, I have been wrong before.
I am at this point now. I don't blame Enos... I blame Sam and the players.. Mostly Sam. This is Enos 1st time back and Sam is the HC who could/if he would open things up. FWIW!
I for one thought It would would be a good hire. I remembered his success with Pittman/Bert getting Qbacks prepped. But, I have been wrong before.
I am at this point now. I don't blame Enos... I blame Sam and the players.. Mostly Sam. This is Enos 1st time back and Sam is the HC who could/if he would open things up. FWIW!
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:59 pm to Razorback Reverend
I was not a fan of Enos but Briles was beyond frustrating at times, but overall, he is a much better OC than Enos.
Most fans wanted Briles run out on a rail. Now they want him back.
Most fans wanted Briles run out on a rail. Now they want him back.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:23 pm to Jack Ruby
by comparison... We have little to go on considering record.
thus far Briles lost to liberty... Enos to BYU...
going from records, etc. In 2020, we lost to Auburn by 2 points... Should have won, those play calls were atrocious.
LSU, by 3 points... see the above.
in 22, that LSU and Mizzou loss... The playcalling was.. Again, terrible in key possessions.
I didn't want to lose Briles... But he had some major WTH moments as well. Will Enos adapt? I doubt it, but we are stuck as long as we have Sam. The one caveat in all of this seems to always be Sam.
FWIW!
thus far Briles lost to liberty... Enos to BYU...
going from records, etc. In 2020, we lost to Auburn by 2 points... Should have won, those play calls were atrocious.
LSU, by 3 points... see the above.
in 22, that LSU and Mizzou loss... The playcalling was.. Again, terrible in key possessions.
I didn't want to lose Briles... But he had some major WTH moments as well. Will Enos adapt? I doubt it, but we are stuck as long as we have Sam. The one caveat in all of this seems to always be Sam.
FWIW!
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:24 pm to Jack Ruby
Listened to a guy break down why Baylor offense is so prolific and good for new QB. All you have to do is read if there is 7 in the box you throw it to your first read. If there is 6 or less you run it. So as long as you can count, you can do the offense quick. The downside is if you face a defense that can just send 4 and stop up the gaps you are screwed.
He was talking about Tennessee and Oklahoma, but I’ve always said Briles offense was perfect at hiding KJ’s inability to read a defense. He has 1 target not there? Tuck and run.
He was talking about Tennessee and Oklahoma, but I’ve always said Briles offense was perfect at hiding KJ’s inability to read a defense. He has 1 target not there? Tuck and run.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:45 pm to Razorback Reverend
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The one caveat in all of this seems to always be Sam.
Interdasting
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:03 pm to FayetteNAM
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Listened to a guy break down why Baylor offense is so prolific and good for new QB. All you have to do is read if there is 7 in the box you throw it to your first read. If there is 6 or less you run it. So as long as you can count, you can do the offense quick. The downside is if you face a defense that can just send 4 and stop up the gaps you are screwed.
He was talking about Tennessee and Oklahoma, but I’ve always said Briles offense was perfect at hiding KJ’s inability to read a defense. He has 1 target not there? Tuck and run.
The way we ran it when I was an OC at the HS level was that if there were 7 in the box it was an automatic throw. If there were 5 or fewer in the box it was an automatic run. If there were 6 in the box it was a post snap read.
We had a built in shot (go, post, corner, glance, depending on the concept) that was a pre-snap read. If you like it you throw it... if you don't you leave it and don't come back to it.
Worked really well for us and was very similar to how most programs were running RPO schemes at the time. Now they have evolved even further and some schemes have two runs or a pass, two passes or a run, etc... you can certainly overcomplicate it if you over think it.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:58 pm to ElDawgHawg
I casually watched some dude on YouTube break down the game and just really saw that we need to make better decisions.
Pittman using the clock…we had them on the ropes at end of 3rd leaving 14 seconds on clock and giving D time to rest.
KJ needs to look for his check downs early and often. Not every play has to go deep.
Play the hot RB, put Johnson in situations, and play the Freshman. He runs hard north and south.
Didn’t realize how bad refs were in this game. Iffy calls not to mention the delay of game miss and the stop of play due to substitution where Armstrong would have scored. BYU may have gotten the TO anyway.
I think we will rebound if the players and coaches saw what my simple eyes can see.
Pittman using the clock…we had them on the ropes at end of 3rd leaving 14 seconds on clock and giving D time to rest.
KJ needs to look for his check downs early and often. Not every play has to go deep.
Play the hot RB, put Johnson in situations, and play the Freshman. He runs hard north and south.
Didn’t realize how bad refs were in this game. Iffy calls not to mention the delay of game miss and the stop of play due to substitution where Armstrong would have scored. BYU may have gotten the TO anyway.
I think we will rebound if the players and coaches saw what my simple eyes can see.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:24 pm to sugatowng
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Didn’t realize how bad refs were in this game. Iffy calls not to mention the delay of game miss and the stop of play due to substitution where Armstrong would have scored. BYU may have gotten the TO anyway.
I think we will rebound if the players and coaches saw what my simple eyes can see.
Three different times that resulted in large gains for BYU there was major holding... Right in front of the camera and officials. I yelled it at the tv screen. I know holding happens every game, but dang if we were called often... them, not so much!
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:18 am to sugatowng
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Pittman using the clock…we had them on the ropes at end of 3rd leaving 14 seconds on clock and giving D time to rest.
I was SCREAMING at the TV to run another play... we were moving and they couldn't stop it... then we take the quarter, stall and doink a field goal.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 12:38 pm to ElDawgHawg
I know this has been talked about already but damn dubinion sucks. Watching that shite show again and even as bad as the line is at least green can get 2 or 3, dubinion just balls up and waits for contact and never gets extra yards. KJ also missed multiple guys wide open, and if aj just catches the ball he probably scores on the screen pass to him. Sloppy sloppy sloppy play. It’s like enos can dial up shite that works but haven’t repped it enough to execute
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:08 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:He has a QB that needed the entire offensive system to "mask" and "shield" the fact that he's actually a poor QB for 3 years while being a starter in the best division in college football and still can't take the training wheels off in year 4. His hands are tied. The investment in KJ didn't work out but NIL and all this other extracurricular bullshite makes a change practically impossible until he graduates. It is what it is.
I am at this point now. I don't blame Enos..
What's funny is you can still tell this is the most development KJ has gotten since he got to college. His mechanics and passing in general are much improved, he just can't run the offense.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:07 pm to Drewbie
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The investment in KJ didn't work out but NIL and all this other extracurricular bullshite makes a change practically impossible until he graduates
Have we had a bigtime NIL guy ever play well?
Catalon had two years of the “UAMS helped me get back on the field” commercials which aged like milk.
Pool had the Barstool thing and played like a 2 star true freshman all year last year.
Rocket is hurt.
NSJ had knee management.
Just seems — as with seemingly everything — that these things always go south with us.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:55 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I doubt it happens but wouldn’t be totally surprised if both Dubinion and Dom transfer, Rocket declares for the draft and we roll with Green, Augustave and the two freshmen next year
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