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re: So it’s not Bobby
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:04 pm to DaleDenton
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:04 pm to DaleDenton
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Think about it. Bert won rose bowls, chaggy was somehow credited with Clemson's offensive success, and Pittman was tied to the "success" pre chaggy and with Smarts success at UGA. The top names being thrown around now are familiar names in the sec 15 years ago or coached for a familiar name in the SEC during that time. This isn't going to result in a Cignetti.
Yeah I guess that’s why I’m not really concerned with how many openings there are. Every other school is just as likely to get it wrong going after the flashy name as we are. More important that we get it right than what everyone else is doing. Don’t care if Florida hires the next Napier who everyone apparently wants as long as we don’t end up with the next Pittman.
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Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:12 pm to hawgfaninc
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If BP can get a great NIL war chest and buy a much better QB, BP can stay
But I’m not convinced he can get that NIL war chest. Need to find a coach that can.
one of my favorite posters ever, (no homo)... but... Dude, nobody will, NOBODY, it will never happen.
If it does, by accident, by the world turning flat (sorry pio) and skipping off of it's axis.... By me winning the largest lottery in history.
Nope!
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:18 pm to Hawgeye
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Bobby Petrino will not be the head coach past the last game of this season.
then those hiring are idiots, but we already knew that...
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:36 pm to Razorback Reverend
This loss is on the players, no way a team can win with 4 turnovers in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:47 pm to Barneyrb
We definitely aren’t beating State or Mizzou.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 7:06 pm to Razorback Reverend
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then those hiring are idiots, but we already knew that...
I am not out on Bobby, I think his use of tight ends is magical and just getting the ball in the hands of play makers. I wish he quit trying to remake Mallett and Lamar and would just make a basic arse Brandon Allen or Tyler Wilson though (gritty tough guys, who could process the game quicker would make check downs to keep the game moving forward, and not just rely on athleticism.)
But there are stipulations I have for him. We need a GM, almost every other school has one. Bobby needs a mediator between him and people. This mediator needs to break ties on offense vs defense, and not make stupid calls like paying Russell hundreds of thousands to millions to play back up rb. There is always another running back who can do just as good unless it’s Derek Henry.
Also the AD/GM need to be over his decision on defense hires. It can’t be his son in law from Missouri State. And it can’t be people he pushes around.
What are your thoughts on those, because if same is same. I might take Mullen, who not everyone hates and won 10 games in the SEC more recently.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 10/25/25 at 7:22 pm to FayetteNAM
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It can’t be his son in law from Missouri State.
Ryan is proving to be quite the head coach himself. He might find himself in another job as the head guy after this season is over if he keeps winning.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:20 pm to FayetteNAM
Time to make a run at Dillingham
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:23 pm to Woopigsooie20
Or not be dumb and go offer $9 to Franklin.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:45 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Or not be dumb and go offer $9 to Franklin.
look at his record vs top 10-25 teams. He is suckage wrapped in Dillards Christmas paper.
I will pass....
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:49 pm to Razorback Reverend
Despite all those wins and returning the program back to its national pedigree as one of college football's biggest brands, the 53 year old Franklin has had a consistent flaw in his career: he can't win the big game or beating a top-10 ranked opponent.
Record vs ranked opponents (Vanderbilt + Penn State combined): 16-36
In his 15 seasons as a head coach, which includes a three year stint at Vanderbilt from 2011 through 2013, Franklin's teams have gone a combined 16-36 against ranked opponents. He went 1-8 against ranked opponents in the SEC with the Commodores, with that lone win coming against No. 13 Georgia in 2013.
Here's a breakdown of how Franklin has fared against ranked opponents at Vanderbilt and Penn State:
Vanderbilt (2011-2013): 1-8
Penn State (2013-Present): 15-28
James Franklin record at Penn State vs top-10 ranked opponents
Record vs top-10 ranked opponents: 4-20
Of the 43 games that Franklin has faced a ranked opponent at Penn State, Franklin has gone 4-20 when those opponents were a top-10 ranked team.
Record vs ranked opponents (Vanderbilt + Penn State combined): 16-36
In his 15 seasons as a head coach, which includes a three year stint at Vanderbilt from 2011 through 2013, Franklin's teams have gone a combined 16-36 against ranked opponents. He went 1-8 against ranked opponents in the SEC with the Commodores, with that lone win coming against No. 13 Georgia in 2013.
Here's a breakdown of how Franklin has fared against ranked opponents at Vanderbilt and Penn State:
Vanderbilt (2011-2013): 1-8
Penn State (2013-Present): 15-28
James Franklin record at Penn State vs top-10 ranked opponents
Record vs top-10 ranked opponents: 4-20
Of the 43 games that Franklin has faced a ranked opponent at Penn State, Franklin has gone 4-20 when those opponents were a top-10 ranked team.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:55 pm to FayetteNAM
My thoughts are simple. James franklin is, as I said above... Suckage in Dillards Wrapping against top 25 ops. Rhett, Malzahn coaching tree and not a great coach, would cost too much for his resume. Malzahn, PLEASE NO!,
Goelsh ?SPelling... I will pass, although his offense is fun to see sometimes. BP would do just as well. IMHO
With Penn State, UCLA, Auburn (most likely), Florida, KY (most likely) and others this time around. We would be better off with Petrino for 2-3 years imho. I just do not see the reasoning to go with another Billy (Florida) or Chard... Don't want a big name to bust like Bert either. BP is the only one who has shown an ability to coach circles around others in this league once he has his players on both sides of the ball. Remember Garrick? not a bad coach, heck Paul p was a good assistant overall. Loved me some Willy, lol... Kind of!
Goelsh ?SPelling... I will pass, although his offense is fun to see sometimes. BP would do just as well. IMHO
With Penn State, UCLA, Auburn (most likely), Florida, KY (most likely) and others this time around. We would be better off with Petrino for 2-3 years imho. I just do not see the reasoning to go with another Billy (Florida) or Chard... Don't want a big name to bust like Bert either. BP is the only one who has shown an ability to coach circles around others in this league once he has his players on both sides of the ball. Remember Garrick? not a bad coach, heck Paul p was a good assistant overall. Loved me some Willy, lol... Kind of!
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:11 pm to Razorback Reverend
The last major bowl we went to was the Sugar Bowl under CBMFP. Before that was the Orange Bowl under Lou Holtz. Let that sink in.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:21 pm to Razorback Reverend
My 2 cents:
Bobby won’t take us to the promise land. I think that time has passed for him. That said, I don’t think we can do better, given the other open jobs in the SEC.
Mullen is on record not wanting the job. Rhett doesn’t want it (not a fan personally). Dillingham will likely end up at a bigger school. Matt Campbell might be an option.
You guys looking for the next Cignetti are looking for a pipe dream. Those coaches are 1-100 chance that you pick the right guy. (As I’m typing this, maybe we make a phone call to Saban and ask who he would recommend??? Is that crazy??)
All that said, I think Bobby might be the best option, even though we haven’t been winning games since his takeover. But realistically, he couldn’t do much for the defense. That house has already been built; gotta live in it for the rest of the season. IF he can get a dominate DC and let him work, BP can be a great coach for us. I just think he’s soured with he fanbase after this week. This was a win able game on paper.
Bobby won’t take us to the promise land. I think that time has passed for him. That said, I don’t think we can do better, given the other open jobs in the SEC.
Mullen is on record not wanting the job. Rhett doesn’t want it (not a fan personally). Dillingham will likely end up at a bigger school. Matt Campbell might be an option.
You guys looking for the next Cignetti are looking for a pipe dream. Those coaches are 1-100 chance that you pick the right guy. (As I’m typing this, maybe we make a phone call to Saban and ask who he would recommend??? Is that crazy??)
All that said, I think Bobby might be the best option, even though we haven’t been winning games since his takeover. But realistically, he couldn’t do much for the defense. That house has already been built; gotta live in it for the rest of the season. IF he can get a dominate DC and let him work, BP can be a great coach for us. I just think he’s soured with he fanbase after this week. This was a win able game on paper.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:42 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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BP can be a great coach for us. I just think he’s soured with he fanbase after this week. This was a win able game on paper.
agreed, but... Damn my man. 4 turnovers. Four...
1+1+1+1 = 4 fricking turnovers, and none of em were apple either.
I distinctly watched him leave the field while looking around the stadium with a look of nostalgia in his eyes, and he muttered "Wow" in disbelief. Saddened me honestly. I think he truly wants to right his wrongs, and would do so at a remarkable price with help from a better DC than ever. With NIL, if supported well.. his recruiting deficiencies would be not as noticeable. I really want/wanted him to have a chance considering all of the openings, etal...
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:44 pm to Razorback Reverend
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My thoughts are simple. James franklin is, as I said above... Suckage in Dillards Wrapping against top 25 ops.
Everyone not named Saban or Smart have sucked against top 10 teams the past 15 years.
Kiffin today, just got his first road win against a ranked opponent since he has been at Ole Miss.
Franklin has a good record against teams ranked #11-#25 and that’s what gets you into the playoff.
Expecting to hire a coach who has a decent record against top 10 teams is a pipe dream. There are only a select few of those all time in the history of college football.
Good coaches and their records vs. ranked teams prior to this season.
Gundy: 47-48
Sarkisan: 21-33
Drinkwitz: 7-14
Elko: 3-6
Kiffin: 11-24
Lea: 2-15
Franklin: 17-26
Ferentz: 30-56
Fickell: 8-20
Schiano: 4-32
Rhule: 2-22
Fleck: 7-20
Swimmer: 40-27
Brohm: 11-16
Lashlee: 3-6
Cristobal: 8-18
Dillingham: 4-6
Whittingham: 22-37
Campbell: 16-27
Rodriguez: 20-45
Dykes: 11-25
Fritz: 4-16
Satterfield: 3-13
Prime: 1-7
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:48 pm to Barneyrb
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This loss is on the players, no way a team can win with 4 turnovers in the 4th quarter.
Yes. Because Bobby doesn't actually pick or coach the players. God miracles those players on our field and then they screw up. Let's blame it on Jesus.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:56 pm to Arksulli
I'm a Bobby fan too, but his offense was dog shite today. They didn't look prepared. That's on the coaches.
I'm not saying we can't hire Bobby and start winning, but the Bobby calling plays last weekend needs to show up every Saturday and I don't know where he was today.
I'm not saying we can't hire Bobby and start winning, but the Bobby calling plays last weekend needs to show up every Saturday and I don't know where he was today.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:57 pm to Arksulli
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Yes. Because Bobby doesn't actually pick or coach the players. God miracles those players on our field and then they screw up. Let's blame it on Jesus.
Sad to say that I am to a point that I agree. 15 years is a long time. Arkansas can't survive with a continuation of the now 4-5 coaches in a row of undisciplined, turnover-prone football.
I am currently watching a changing-of-the-guard in the SEC as LSU capitulates to the best A&M team in the modern era. Arkansas has to answer with someone that can steady the ship and put a disciplined, competitive, and physical product on the field.
The past simply does not matter anymore. Must look ahead.
Jon Sumrall has become my pick. He has no connection to Gus, Bobby, Bert, Sam, Nutt....hell Arkansas in general. And that is what is needed. Just a football guy.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 10/25/25 at 10:02 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Jon Sumrall
Sumrall is 0-6 against ranked teams which automatically disqualifies him in some eyes.
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