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people who have played for or coached under mike leach

Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:56 am
Seth Littrell
Dino barbers
Dave aranda ( but leach doesn’t understand defense remember)
Art briles
Sonny dykes
Tony franklin
Lincoln Riley
Josh huepel
Graham Harrell
Kliff kingsbury
Dana holgerson
Jake spavital
Sonny cumbie

So please tell me why we shouldn’t hire the man who has produced half the coaches that the rest of y’all want to hire. This man is the mastermind to the offense that has changed college football and he would come here if we went after him. But the right choice is just too obvious so of course we won’t do it
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:59 am to
I’m starting to think he’s the best option because he’s an a-hole. Someone has got to light a fire under these players asses.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:11 am to
He would be my first choice.

We may or may not win any SEC championships but the man definitely would have us winning a lot of games again.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 10:14 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:15 am to
Exactly he would win games. My only issue is after he leaves we have to make sure we hire someone else who gets his offense. I don’t want a repeat of what happened after petrino left
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:26 am to
We definitely need a motivator.

I remember one of Chad’s early practices here, the team was being slow so he got all fired up and started making everyone do burpees. It was just for the cameras though, the players were kind of rolling their eyes. Like “now he’s trying to be a hard arse?”

It was all for show. Craddock did the same thing with an O lineman, just stood there and made him do burpees until he was about to collapse while the cameras were around. Pretty sure he left the team shortly after.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:32 am to
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Exactly he would win games. My only issue is after he leaves we have to make sure we hire someone else who gets his offense. I don’t want a repeat of what happened after petrino left

I'm more concerned about this hire.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57350 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:04 am to
I've never seen so many players come out in go after coaches like they did Chode
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:17 am to
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So please tell me why we shouldn’t hire the man who has produced half the coaches that the rest of y’all want to hire. This man is the mastermind to the offense that has changed college football and he would come here if we went after him. But the right choice is just too obvious so of course we won’t do it


For a reasoned answer, even if many don't articulate their intuition well... is that he may be out of what made him great. At a certain point, innovation stops.

For instance, Lincoln Riley added a different type of run game, with lots of pulling lineman, to the Air Raid. What wrinkle like that has Leach added? Wouldn't you want the guy that knows what Leach has to offer, and wants to build on it instead of the guy whose system has been static for 20 years?

That being said, I don't know if Leach has stopped being innovative per say, and I think he'd be a great hire, I was just explaining why some would think the way they do.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:23 am to
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That being said, I don't know if Leach has stopped being innovative per say, and I think he'd be a great hire, I was just explaining why some would think the way they do.


I think most are mis-remembering where Mumme/Leach had Kentucky at their time there, how they were doing it, what was left after they were gone.

But his biggest supporters on this board are consistent in glossing over the low points of Leach, which makes the Houston Nutt roller coaster seem like the kiddie roller coaster when talking lows and highs.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29448 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 11:28 am to
I'm not sure about Leach but I do think some of our players need to be locked in a shed for awhile.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
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For a reasoned answer, even if many don't articulate their intuition well... is that he may be out of what made him great. At a certain point, innovation stops
he won 11 games last year and won pac 12 coach of the year. Now what else is the issue?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:16 pm to
He’s won 3 coach of the year trophies including 2018 pac coach of the year he’s 7-7 in bowl games and has an overall record of 137-87. He’s been a head coach for 17 seasons and made 15 bowl appearances. If he makes a bowl this year it’ll be 16out of 18..so please tell me how bad his fricking lows are???

He’s had 2 11 win seasons For a reasoned answer, even if many don't articulate their intuition well... is that he may be out of what made him great. At a certain point, innovation stops

He’s had 2 11 win seasons
He’s had 6 9 win seasons
He’s had 4 8 win seasons
2 7 win seasons
1 6 win season
And 2 3 win seasons


This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:17 pm to
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he won 11 games last year and won pac 12 coach of the year. Now what else is the issue?


How has he done this year in a PAC12 that is the weakest it has been since before Carroll took over SC?

1-5 isn't what you would expect in that climate from a program builder.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:19 pm to
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so please tell me how bad his fricking lows are???




1-5 in the PAC currently and that isn't even accounting for the multiple losses to FCS schools.

But focus on the parts you like, you be you.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:25 pm to
He’s been a head coach 17 years dale and made a bowl in 15. If you don’t see consistent success you either the biggest idiot on this site or you are intentionally obtuse to troll on the internet and I’m leaning to the latter. Mike leach is objectively a proven winner and good coach
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:27 pm to
He has also proven to struggle against FCS competition losing far more times than a P5 coach should which is never.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:30 pm to
Right now dale he has made a bowl in 89% of the seasons he has been the head coach of a division 1 football team. If he loses every other fricking game this year he will have made bowl games in 83% of the seasons that he was the head coach of a division 1 fbs power 5 football team. I’d sure as shite take that over the runny doo doo we’ve had the past 8 seasons and he’s done all of this at 2 different places that have shite as far as recruiting tradition facilities, etc. so yes I’d say he is a program builder but as you said believe what you want to believe
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15996 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:31 pm to
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He has also proven to struggle against FCS competition losing far more times than a P5 coach should which is never.
what’s his record against fcs dale? You keep spouting this bullshite whiteout providing any facts and o just keep throwing numbers at your face so instead of running off at the mouth how about you show me all these fcs losses I’m supposed to worry about? I know he lost to eastern Washington a few years back but that is honestly the only one I can remember
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
So you're saying Leach doesn't lose to not only inferior competition but inferior divisions of competition?

You Leach people are just like the Petrinotards who only see what you want to see from these coaches, all evidence is ignored with rebuttals presented to change the narrative to where you are more comfortable discussing them.

Are you the same Hawgnsincebirth who had the hard on for Conque for years in football?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:37 pm to
According to a quick run down (someone fact check me)

I see 12-2 against FCS
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