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re: people who have played for or coached under mike leach
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:07 pm to Porky
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:07 pm to Porky
I'm pretty certain the drama that followed Petrino from Arkansas played a part in his struggles afterwards... he's been easy to recruit against ever since, and the episode with Long will be thought of whenever he's trying to be a 'coach'.
He never should have been fired from Arkansas at the time, but there's no way he's a worthy candidate today. That well is bone dry.
He never should have been fired from Arkansas at the time, but there's no way he's a worthy candidate today. That well is bone dry.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:09 pm to Beached Tusky
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I'm pretty certain the drama that followed Petrino from Arkansas played a part in his struggles afterwards... he's been easy to recruit against ever since, and the episode with Long will be thought of whenever he's trying to be a 'coach'.
Before that it was Arthur Blank's fault/espn's he couldn't recruit at Arkansas.
Maybe its as simple as he isn't capable of building and maintaining a power 5 program, but he would make someone a hell of an OC/QB coach.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:17 pm to DaleDenton
quote:Except he could?
he couldn't recruit at Arkansas
He left Bert with a pretty stacked roster with multiple NFL starters.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:18 pm to Beached Tusky
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I'm pretty certain the drama that followed Petrino from Arkansas played a part in his struggles afterwards... he's been easy to recruit against ever since, and the episode with Long will be thought of whenever he's trying to be a 'coach'.
Petrino's problem at Louisville was his inability to maintain quality staff. And hiring members of his family as assistant coaches was part of that problem. It did not go over well.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:20 pm to Porky
Give me an 8 win coach and i'm good. Petrino would 6+ wins here at this point. The only thing good he brings is his hard assesness, but it is also some of his downfall.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:26 pm to King
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Give me an 8 win coach and i'm good. Petrino would 6+ wins here at this point. The only thing good he brings is his hard assesness, but it is also some of his downfall.
I agree.
Petrino has a great offensive mind. And he would win games. But Leach would be a better selection IMO, because he is more stable. And his offensive strategy is very similar.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:33 pm to Porky
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But Leach would be a better selection IMO, because he is more stable. And his offensive strategy is very similar.
To whom? Chad Morris?
As with Pelphrey, Arkansas is starting with a blank slate in regards to installed offensive philosophy.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:35 pm to Porky
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Petrino's problem at Louisville was his inability to maintain quality staff. And hiring members of his family as assistant coaches was part of that problem. It did not go over well.
Again - he wasn't having too much of an issue having success at the college level before the drama with Jeff Long.
At Louisville or Arkansas.
Everything changed for the guy post-firing at Arkansas.
Idiots will try to say 'he couldn't recruit' or 'it wouldn't have lasted'... all bullshite.
Results were results, just like they are now. HIS results haven't been the same after the incident... polar opposite in fact.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:40 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Everything about leach was a made up bullshite lie because the brass at t tech wanted him out and nothing else. They used the snake Craig games as an excuse but you probably know what and are just distorting things intentionally
That is true. Leach was screwed over by Texas Tech. And Craig James hired a public relations firm to orchestrate a smear campaign against Mike Leach, including the "incident" involving his son.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:44 pm to Beached Tusky
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Again - he wasn't having too much of an issue having success at the college level before the drama with Jeff Long.
At Louisville or Arkansas.
Everything changed for the guy post-firing at Arkansas.
Idiots will try to say 'he couldn't recruit' or 'it wouldn't have lasted'... all bullshite.
Results were results, just like they are now. HIS results haven't been the same after the incident... polar opposite in fact.
True. The drama with Jeff Long had a profound effect.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:00 pm to DaleDenton
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To whom? Chad Morris?
We never saw Chad Morris' alleged "hammer down" offense at Arkansas. But Leach does run a very innovative spread-type offense. Petrino's offense is also very innovative.
Difference (vs. Morris)is the fact that Leach has had a high level of success with it against P5 teams as a head coach.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:08 pm to Porky
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But Leach does run a very innovative spread-type offense.
How is it innovative?
It has be ran unchanged since the mid-90s at Kentucky.
Its no longer tearing up the PAC, but it will be successful in the SEC where teams still pretend to play defense?
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:15 pm to DaleDenton
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How is it innovative?
It has be ran unchanged since the mid-90s at Kentucky.
Its no longer tearing up the PAC, but it will be successful in the SEC where teams still pretend to play defense?
Much like Petrino, he is very adept at exploiting weaknesses in opposing defenses. And much like Petrino, it depends on having a competent quarterback. But most successful offenses do.
Yes, the SEC is tough competition. I didn't say he would tear it up. I wouldn't predict that with any coach. But he does know how to manage his staff, team, and hire competent people.
If you were to read his book, you would understand more about how he runs his offense. It's very unorthodox and innovative. I cannot explain it here. Maybe you should read it.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:15 pm to DaleDenton
It's not tearing it up in the PAC because his DC who put an amazing defense on the field was hired away from him for more money than he could scrounge up.
Guys like Leach and (formerly Petrino) hand off complete defensive duties to their DCs... it's not quite another team but in practice the DCs run them like one.
Leach can't out-score what his defense this year can't stop. The only team to hold them under 20 this year is Utah.
Guys like Leach and (formerly Petrino) hand off complete defensive duties to their DCs... it's not quite another team but in practice the DCs run them like one.
Leach can't out-score what his defense this year can't stop. The only team to hold them under 20 this year is Utah.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:24 pm to Beached Tusky
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It's not tearing it up in the PAC because his DC who put an amazing defense on the field was hired away from him for more money than he could scrounge up.
Very true. And having a good defense is very important.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 8:27 pm
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