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re: Our hearts have been ripped from our chests twice now

Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:02 am to
Thank you for the spacing
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:45 am to
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BennyAndTheInkJets


Whelp... About answers it, Thanks!
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:25 pm to
I agree with HRV. Always have.

Am I supposed to be upset that we came in 2nd one year and were ranked #1 for most of another? Then I'd hate to be a fan of 99% of the other schools out there.

As for DVH, I often don't agree with him, but I can't argue with his success. We'd be thrilled if Pittman accomplished as much, but we're supposed to be disappointed in DVH?

This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Hubbhogg
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:57 pm to
We're going to win one and probably multiple in baseball over the next 5-10 years, everyone needs to chill and enjoy being good at something again
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:28 pm to
Multiple in the next 10 years? Arkansas struggles trying to even get to the finals.

Posted by Hubbhogg
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:55 pm to
I mean we should have won it a couple years ago, we're making it almost every year now, we'll get one sooner than later
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:58 pm to
I don't know. Florida State has been to the CWS 23 times and only made three finals. Maybe Arkansas will win one the next 15 years.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 2:59 pm to
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I mean we should have won it a couple years ago, we're making it almost every year now, we'll get one sooner than later

Agree with this. It's purely a probability game and being hot at the right time. DVH has put us squarely at the level that we have the ability to keep rolling the dice. Eventually they'll land in our favor.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:09 pm to
Depending on the draft, Arkansas is looking at a down year. Unless the incoming freshmen are really good.

Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:25 pm to
FSU historically racked up a bunch of wins against shite programs then ran into actual deserving programs in Omaha and went 0-2

If we make it thru a meat grinder SEC, we ought to feel pretty good about our chances vs whoever in Omaha. FSU was reaching Omaha essentially untested for years

Hell we beat three of the teams in Omaha this year. Anything can happen but you've got to like us, especially if we can get 25k Hog fans filling the place
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:51 pm to
If the guys come back that Hawgeye thinks come back, and we find three starting pitchers, we'll be right back in the mix of things next year.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:58 pm to
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If the guys come back that Hawgeye thinks come back, and we find three starting pitchers, we'll be right back in the mix of things next year.

This. Keep in mind we've been recruiting at a pretty insane level for close to 5 years now. There will be new faces next year currently on roster than will be extremely high quality players. I highly doubt we'll drop off much. Were in the "Solid shot for Omaha every year" camp right now as a program.

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cubsfan5150

You just going to gloss over my god damn dissertation on Vandy schollies?
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:59 pm to
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If we make it thru a meat grinder SEC, we ought to feel pretty good about our chances vs whoever in Omaha.


That's the thing though, it doesn't matter what we did in SEC play if we suddenly go cold in Omaha. We met FSU in Omaha the last time we went and lost. The most talented team rarely wins the NCAA tournament in either basketball or baseball.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Prior to Corbin arriving, Vanderbilt had been to the postseason 3 times total, most recently in 1980. Corbin joined in 2003. By 2007 he had the Commodores ranked #1 for the majority of the year, won the SEC, won the SECt (against us in the finals), and had #1 national seed before losing in their regional to Michigan. Corbin took Vanderbilt from a middling program to a nationally relevant in 4 years, and this was 1 year BEFORE the rules changed.


Corbin is a top notch coach, maybe the best there is with Augie gone, but he didn't get over the hump until the rules changed in his favor.

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What could Corbin do with the overall facilities and fan support that Arkansas enjoys? There are advantages and disadvantages of every school. It's all about relative magnitude which I'll get to next.


These are things that we assume kids like, but what we know kids and especially parents like is money. In football, the facilities and fan support mean much more. In baseball, due to the scholarship situation, money means all. If things are close between say MS State and Kentucky for a recruit as far as money goes, then yes, I imagine the recruit chooses the superior facilities, but if Kentucky is offering enough extra money to make a difference, then most of the time, that'd be the scale tipper.

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Also note that all of the above assumes that any baseball player can meet the academic requirements for OV,


My understanding is that anyone that gets into Vandy automatically qualifies for this and I highly doubt that all athletes are qualifying for Vandy's regular academic standards... much like ND, Stanford (who I believe has a nearly identical program) and Duke, athletes are given much more leeway. Lastly, while athletes are notoriously stupid at times, anyone that has a scholarship offer from Vandy, Duke, Rice, Tulane, etc., should take those offers over just about every other school, including Arkansas, as that degree will be worth much more post playing career.

All in all, I agree that Corbin is right there among the best.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:42 pm to
Baylor had more talent than Gonzaga, if not then they would have lost. Gonzaga played an easy conference schedule and wasn't challenged.

Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:43 pm to
We lost to them 1-0. We also lost a few 1 run games to NC State. The ball will eventually bounce the other way.

I'd be more worried of we had a 30 year history of going 0-2 every time we made it. That shows the program is likely overachieving by reaching Omaha. A streak like that isn't "just baseball". One run games are

People said we would not be a perennial Omaha club during those years we kept losing supers to Arizona State. Here we are
Posted by gohogs141
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:49 pm to
And Duke had 3 top 10 NBA draft picks with a hall of fame coach when they had Zion and they didn’t even make the final four. Tournament formats are just so random sometimes.
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