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re: O'Grady has ghosted Arkansas...
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:04 am to RazorBroncs
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:04 am to RazorBroncs
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They still want to win, believe it or not.
Wut?
Did you watch the game last week?
The team fricking layed down and folded like a beach chair.
O'grady, Knox, Boyd and Burks are the only players on the whole team that have showed any will to win.
Now that I think about it, don't blame CJ for being burned out being in the heart of two back to back clown shows.
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:08 am to troyt37
Meanwhile
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Arkansas has ghosted winning...
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:16 am to STLhog
If he gets drafted by the bengals he could end up having a 50 year NFL TE career, since he'll hardly ever play. After all, the team sucks so O'Grady doesn't need to go out and play to earn anything
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:37 am to City Ham
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After all, the team sucks so O'Grady doesn't need to go out and play to earn anything
Please list for me what is to be earned on a 2 win team, with 4 games to go, Hicks at QB, and 90% of the rest of the team, including pretty much the entirety of the defense, having given up 3 or 4 games ago?
Then we can weigh that against the possibility of ending a multiple million dollar career in the NFL against that. Some of you act like these football players are in college to get an education or something.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:56 am to RazorBroncs
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O'Grady looks like he's only in it for himself, he would give this team a better chance to win on Saturday and he fricked his teammates over on that one. They still want to win, believe it or not.
From the looks of the game Saturday, the team supported O'Grady over Chad.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:49 am to troyt37
Didn't get along with Bielema very well either. Is there a common denominator?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:57 am to WonderWartHawg
The fact that anyone is still siding with Morris is beyond stupid.
Why arr people citing CJ's past to cover for Morris' dipshittedness.
O'Grady went to bat for KJ and ended up getting punished.
That f'n chaggie doesn't even know how to operate the redshirt system.... but yeah "CJ is a looser and a quiterz."
Too many of ya'll are listening to Bruce James defend Morris and blame Long/Bielema. Bruce James actually compared Morris to Frank Broyles this morning.
Why arr people citing CJ's past to cover for Morris' dipshittedness.
O'Grady went to bat for KJ and ended up getting punished.
That f'n chaggie doesn't even know how to operate the redshirt system.... but yeah "CJ is a looser and a quiterz."
Too many of ya'll are listening to Bruce James defend Morris and blame Long/Bielema. Bruce James actually compared Morris to Frank Broyles this morning.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:08 am to hilltophog
Morris sucks, Bielema sucked but that doesn’t change the fact that O’Grady was a dipshit under both of them so he also deserves blame. I’d say all parties are at fault here and move on.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:11 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:12 am to WonderWartHawg
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Didn't get along with Bielema very well either. Is there a common denominator?
Yes, a lack of competent coaching and numbers in the win column.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:16 am to STLhog
quote:Bielema, similar to Morris, also has a hard time demanding 100% buy in from players when the coach isn't bought in and focused themselves.
Yes, a lack of competent coaching and numbers in the win column.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:23 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:The only thing that O'Grady is at fault for is not knowing how an Aggie who never played college ball would react to being challenged.
I’d say all parties are at fault here and move on.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:13 am to GoldenSombrero
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but the one with the most smoke is he called Morris out about the QB situation, on behalf of at least part of team,
If he called him out in a meeting then that is on CJ. If they team felt that way then he should have had a one-on-one with CM to express the team's disapproval.
Based on CJs past character issues this does not look favorably for the NFL.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:32 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Didn't get along with Bielema very well either. Is there a common denominator?
Shitty, losing coaches?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:50 pm to troyt37
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Please list for me what is to be earned on a 2 win team, with 4 games to go, Hicks at QB, and 90% of the rest of the team, including pretty much the entirety of the defense, having given up 3 or 4 games ago?
You demonstrate that:
1. You follow through on your commitments
2. You support your teammates
3. You don't quit when the going gets tough
4. You care about others, not just yourself
5. You weren't raised to be a baby back bitch
Come on, he has a few catches a game. What realistically is the chance for injury?
If I'm in a draft room, I pass
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:27 pm to City Ham
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1. You follow through on your commitments
And what commitments were made to him? Were they followed through on, to set an example for him to follow, or did the people who made commitments to him shite on him at every opportunity?
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2. You support your teammates
And does his teammates support him? Judging by the figurative skullfricking at home, on homecoming night, by a team we are more talented than, I'm going to guess they do. Was he given the opportunity to support them, or was he shown the door, because he voiced the will of the team?
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3. You don't quit when the going gets tough
Did he quit, or did Morris quit him? And really, a 4 or 5 year senior on the Arkansas Razorbacks football team, who is still here for his senior year? Yeah, if the going getting tough was too much for him, he would have been gone a few years ago, or are you not familiar with the recent history of this program?
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4. You care about others, not just yourself
See above.
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5. You weren't raised to be a baby back bitch
Don't know the kid, but a case of beer says he would have you begging to be his bitch, if you had the stones to say something like that to his face.
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Come on, he has a few catches a game. What realistically is the chance for injury?
So you don't know anything about football. I'm starting to understand you.
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If I'm in a draft room, I pass
You and Chad Morris, I guess.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:51 pm to troyt37
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O'Grady has ghosted Arkansas...
#metoo
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:11 pm to hilltophog
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The fact that anyone is still siding with Morris is beyond stupid.
Saying CJ quitting is his own fault does not equal defending - or siding with - Morris.
I very much don't like Morris and I've made that abundantly clear, but quitting on your teammates because you tried to tell the boss how to do his job and got called out for it isn't cool.
I'd be curious to see who played organized sports beyond elementary and who didn't vs. their opinion on the matter. Maybe I'm old school, but you just don't bail on your teammates when things get rough.
And yes, they still WANT to win despite their performance on the field. They still bust their asses in practice and in their studies to play for the football team on Saturday, you can't tell me they don't want payoff.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:50 pm to RazorBroncs
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Saying CJ quitting is his own fault does not equal defending - or siding with - Morris.
I very much don't like Morris and I've made that abundantly clear, but quitting on your teammates because you tried to tell the boss how to do his job and got called out for it isn't cool.
I'd be curious to see who played organized sports beyond elementary and who didn't vs. their opinion on the matter. Maybe I'm old school, but you just don't bail on your teammates when things get rough.
And yes, they still WANT to win despite their performance on the field. They still bust their asses in practice and in their studies to play for the football team on Saturday, you can't tell me they don't want payoff.
Normally I'd agree. But we don't know that he quit for a fact; maybe Chad told him not to come back.
Depending on what actually happened maybe his teammates don't think he bailed on them but was the one who voiced their collective opinion and paid the price.
If he slept thru a team meeting, got suspended and just decided to quit I'd have a different opinion, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:18 pm to troyt37
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And what commitments were made to him?
Free college, free room and board, free "cost of attendance", free "student success center", free nutrition and juice bar access, free tutors, free Nike shite, free "tutors", free food and drink anywhere on Dickson, instant popularity at any party with girls at it. A platform where millions watch you play your sport, connections to NFL alumni and scouts, facility access out the arse, free press, thousands of Twitter followers, a few million Arkansans knowing your name. We did not promise bowls, wins, or results of any kind
We came through with every single one of these. In exchange for this, we asked for a kid to put on pads and play a game for a few years, until he graduated, lost amateur status, or became medically unable to compete. We could not quit on him if he ended up sucking at that game.
This was too much for him, he chose to quit instead
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/5/19 at 4:39 pm to City Ham
quote:Football isn't baseball. You risk a career ending injury everytime you step on the field. Saying "what are the chances" is a stupid argument because what are the chances someone goes to tackle him and their facemask slams right into his knee? How do you quantify that? You can't. That shite just happens and you just gotta hope you're not the guy getting smoked. The chances are the same as every game but it's about "is it worth the risk" not "what are the chances"
What realistically is the chance for injury?
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 4:52 pm
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