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re: O'Grady has ghosted Arkansas...

Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:15 pm to
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This was too much for him, he chose to quit instead


So you know this? Did he quit, or did Morris kick him?
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:29 am to
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Saying "what are the chances" is a stupid argument because what are the chances someone goes to tackle him and their facemask slams right into his knee? How do you quantify that?


Number of occurrences / (NCAA D1 plays per year * 22 players on the field for each play)

Pretty fricking straightforward actually

What are the odds I get killed by lightning on my way to my car? Very low. But is it worth the risk??????

Apparently you people would stay locked in your house terrified something bad might happen
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132252 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:30 am to
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Apparently you people would stay locked in your house terrified something bad might happen

I don't drink tap water fwiw.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8299 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:45 am to
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Morris sucks, Bielema sucked but that doesn’t change the fact that O’Grady was a dipshit under both of them so he also deserves blame




its like people can't comprehend the possibility that Morris, Bielema both suck AND CJ can be an unreliable drama queen.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Number of occurrences / (NCAA D1 plays per year * 22 players on the field for each play)

Pretty fricking straightforward actually

LMFAOOOOOOOO that data point would be fricking useless. An actaul, valid data point on CJ O'Grady's chances to get hurt would be immensely complicated. # of injuries the opponent has caused to other teams with current roster, # of injuries the player has had over the course of his life, weather conditions, quality of your teammates, the strength & health of literaly every fricking body part on a player and every player on every team. etc. Etc. The stat that you say is "pretty fricking straight forward" is fricking garbage and has no bearing on what the actual % chances are on a given day. It is meaningless and oversimplified. To give an actual % chance of injury is too complicated to predict with any sort of accuracy. If it wasn't PFF would have that shite out already.
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What are the odds I get killed by lightning on my way to my car? Very low. But is it worth the risk??????

Sure on any given day, but again this is a gross oversimplification. You could actaully say your chances are basically 0 if there's no cloud cover in your area vs you could have a pretty damn high % chance compared to the average when there's a massive thunderstorm going on, the elevation of where you live compared to the surrounding area, whether or not you're under a tree, whether or not you're holding an appliance plugged into the wall during the storm etc., etc. Isn't data fun? Once you actually know wtf you're talking about when it comes to numbers you realize damn near nothing is straightforward and all of these % chance stats like "chance you get bit by a shark, or die on a plane crash" are truly worthless statistics because the real % chance is highly cirumstantial and damn near impossible to quantify.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:36 pm to
I spent 10 seconds typing the first thing that came to mind. You can sharpen the pencil as much as you want, but it's certainly possible to forecast the odds using historic data. It won't predict injury, but I was told it was impossible to know the chances of injury.

More sensitive shite than this is analyzed using less sophisticated data sets and models all the time in the real world, brother. We put people on the moon with pencil and paper. More finesse in a model may or may not actually add anything

It's pretty clear you don't work with data or analytics. I'm guessing you're in the floor mopping business. Or let me put it another way, tell me where you do analytics work so I can avoid buying stock in that company

Perhaps more to the point, the odds of career ending injury are astronomically low
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:46 pm to
I am also more concerned with our fanbase's permissive attitude toward this quitting. We've had mentally weak players for a long time, but our fan base has apparently been cucked hard by all this losing

So it is about the coach being an incompetent dumbass and the poor record? If we had 3 wins and he quit would you be mad? How about 4? Does a Shreveport bowl even matter if the decision is about self preservation?

Would he have needed a shot at the playoff to play the final 1/4 of the games? Top 10 ranking?

See how stupid making excuses for him is? There's no justification for quitting.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:04 pm to
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There's no justification for quitting.

So you've haven't given up on this team?

You go to every home game?

You keep pumping money into this program?

You do nothing but "hold the rope" and keep fighting for this football program?

Funny how players who are risking injury are quitters if they choose to not play for a dumbass but fans who give up are just realists.

Gotta love that "shut up and play" mentality.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:11 pm to
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 It won't predict injury, but I was told it was impossible to know the chances of injury.

It still is and you haven't proven otherwise in the slightest.
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We put people on the moon with pencil and pape

That's not analytics that's physics. Terrible example.
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More sensitive shite than this is analyzed using less sophisticated data sets and models all the time in the real world, brother. 

Yes and many are constantly wrong and cost companies billions of dollars. Almost everyone sucks arse at forecasting.
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It's pretty clear you don't work with data or analytics

I'm literally a data analyst lol.
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Perhaps more to the point, the odds of career ending injury are astronomically low


Sure that's your gut feeling but you have absolutley 0 evidence to make that claim on an individual basis to O'Grady. That's my point. Nobody can quantify what an individual player's chances for injruy are with any sort of accuracy without a shite ton of data. If it were so easy PFF would be providing personalized injry probabilities to all 32 NFL teams on a week by week basis. You have no idea wtf you're talking about.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:34 pm to
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You go to every home game?


I have, yes. Thank you for your interest
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Funny how players who are risking injury are quitters if they choose to not play for a dumbass but fans who give up are just realists.


I don’t recall signing a letter to receive free food, tuition, books, housing, tutors, full cost of attendance, a personal trainer, a nutritionist, etc. in exchange for my fandom
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:43 pm to
You have the iq of a potato if you believe anything you posted here. I understand if you're just shitposting to try to win an e-argument

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I'm literally a data analyst lol.


I bet. Just tell me the company and I will avoid that stock like the plague. You are clueless about the essence of data and forecasting. Which is really stunning, because it's not that complex.

Read Black Swan for a primer on what you're doing wrong here. I'll leave it at that. Also, I'll establish my odds using my City Ham Magical Prognosticator Formula™ that you read and understand that book at 1/10000000000000 with 100% confidence.

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Nobody can quantify what an individual player's chances for injruy are with any sort of accuracy without a shite ton of data.


How do you know the accuracy of my forecast?
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:13 pm to
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You have the iq of a potato if you believe anything you posted here
k
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I understand if you're just shitposting to try to win an e-argument

Clearly that is your goal

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Read Black Swan for a primer on what you're doing wrong here. 

Troll 110% confirmed.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132252 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:10 pm to
Board is slowly turning into hogville lite.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 6:01 pm to
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Piofeet 110% confirmed.

Fify
Posted by RZRBK5
Member since Sep 2015
157 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 6:19 pm to
Upvote for u sir.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8493 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:30 pm to
Great player. Amazing that everyone is freaking out over this when we have 2 wins.

Who gives a shite. Lets just hope that we have a new coach next season.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12603 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:00 pm to
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Funny how players who are risking injury are quitters if they choose to not play for a dumbass but fans who give up are just realists.


In all fairness, these same players quit on the field every Saturday. They just usually don't quit off the field like this.

At this point, it doesn't really matter. The coaches look like they've quit. The team quit weeks ago. The fans have quit and are moving on to basketball.

Honestly, though, I feel bad the players. None of them came here and expected to be one of the worst programs in the country. These guys are leaving and won't have memories of any big wins during their careers. Just memories of getting their asses kicked by teams like North Texas and San Jose State.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132252 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:39 pm to
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