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Posted on 10/24/19 at 5:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 10/24/19 at 5:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
He would bring in Chaney as OC again.....
Which would depress me to a point.
IDK man....
Which would depress me to a point.
IDK man....
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:03 pm to CFB_Fanatic
I must be the only one tired of 2-10 experiments. Sam Pittman isn’t a head coach. We need a head coach, period. Screw experiments. It’s time for a sure thing to get the program back to at least 6-7 wins a season.
Les Miles
Skip Holtz
Bill Clark
Willie Fritz
Les Miles
Skip Holtz
Bill Clark
Willie Fritz
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:08 pm to Hawgeye
Hawgeye, I partly agree with you but when did we have experiments other than morris>>
CBB was absolutely a Homerun hire on paper prior to his coaching here.
and I think we need a Homerun hire period. Not medium of the road. This program has been in the chitter for too long to try an up and comer or settle for a medium winner as well.
Throw the dang book, cash, facilities, give it all at the crossroads to win for once.
CBB was absolutely a Homerun hire on paper prior to his coaching here.
and I think we need a Homerun hire period. Not medium of the road. This program has been in the chitter for too long to try an up and comer or settle for a medium winner as well.
Throw the dang book, cash, facilities, give it all at the crossroads to win for once.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:17 pm to Razorback Reverend
It’s not 2011 any longer. You can throw whatever at whoever.
Reality is...This program has had 3 winless conference seasons in the last 8 years. This program has had 5 seasons of 4 wins or less. This program has had 3 seasons of 3 wins or less.
This program isn’t very attractive.
Go and hire someone who knows what Arkansas was and can be. The foundation must be built again. We aren’t jumping up and winning 10 games again overnight. Ain’t happening.
Everyone is all over Norvell. Minus his dirty closet, what’s he done or shown that proves he can take on a major rebuild in the toughest conference in America? He took over a perfect situation at Memphis and maintained it. Sort of like Bret at Wisconsin when he took over for Alvarez. It’s a totally different ball game when the wheel has to be reinvented.
A seasoned, veteran coach who can lay a solid foundation is badly needed. A coach who will build the program from both trenches outward. That’s the biggest issue with Morris. He is/has been trying to build from the outside in. Not gonna work here.
Reality is...This program has had 3 winless conference seasons in the last 8 years. This program has had 5 seasons of 4 wins or less. This program has had 3 seasons of 3 wins or less.
This program isn’t very attractive.
Go and hire someone who knows what Arkansas was and can be. The foundation must be built again. We aren’t jumping up and winning 10 games again overnight. Ain’t happening.
Everyone is all over Norvell. Minus his dirty closet, what’s he done or shown that proves he can take on a major rebuild in the toughest conference in America? He took over a perfect situation at Memphis and maintained it. Sort of like Bret at Wisconsin when he took over for Alvarez. It’s a totally different ball game when the wheel has to be reinvented.
A seasoned, veteran coach who can lay a solid foundation is badly needed. A coach who will build the program from both trenches outward. That’s the biggest issue with Morris. He is/has been trying to build from the outside in. Not gonna work here.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:19 pm to Hawgeye
Then go get leach.. he won at Texas fricking tech and Washington fricking state. 2 of the biggest cellar dwellers in ncaa football division 1 fbs history. He will win here
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:26 pm to Hawgeye
You have convinced me. Art Briles deserves a redemption story.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:28 pm to Hawgeye
What if there was a coach who checked all of your boxes, knows the state and is a Razorback who took over a program who went
1-11
4-8
5-7
4-8
Before him and has finished
8-5
9-4
4-3 currently.
Makes too much sense, doesn't run a flashy enough offense, not Texas enough for Arkansas.
1-11
4-8
5-7
4-8
Before him and has finished
8-5
9-4
4-3 currently.
Makes too much sense, doesn't run a flashy enough offense, not Texas enough for Arkansas.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:34 pm to DaleDenton
Butch would be a solid hire to restore the foundation.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:37 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
O Line, D Line... over and over again.
This is our biggest problem period.
Next is the lack of fundamental coaching, we absolutely suck. Is leach a great Oline and Dline recruiter>?
I honestly don't know. And, I just don't believe the PTB will mesh with him enough for him to be successful here.
We have too many meddlers in this program. I would support the try at least.
Hawgeye… I agree with what you just said about Norvell. But I would rather go get a Gundy, a truly established thing. Name would bring Cachet and recruit well. Someone like that, who also can hire the best assistants period.
CBB has Pittman, Chaney, Shannon... he did fairly well for a bit then tanked for some odd reason. Drinking> ??? IDK. But who else other than medium coaches like you have mentioned?
I am just pathetically sick of it all....
This is our biggest problem period.
Next is the lack of fundamental coaching, we absolutely suck. Is leach a great Oline and Dline recruiter>?
I honestly don't know. And, I just don't believe the PTB will mesh with him enough for him to be successful here.
We have too many meddlers in this program. I would support the try at least.
Hawgeye… I agree with what you just said about Norvell. But I would rather go get a Gundy, a truly established thing. Name would bring Cachet and recruit well. Someone like that, who also can hire the best assistants period.
CBB has Pittman, Chaney, Shannon... he did fairly well for a bit then tanked for some odd reason. Drinking> ??? IDK. But who else other than medium coaches like you have mentioned?
I am just pathetically sick of it all....
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:45 pm to Hawgeye
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Butch would be a solid hire to restore the foundation.
He isn't a long-term solution, but he could get the program on sound footing and given his coaching tree likely have the longer term solution on staff to take over by that time.
Reality is a HC gig is a 5-8 year shelf life at most schools, the exception is a school that is happy with more good years than bad with a great year every now and again (Leach, Gundy, etc). There is only one Saban, but let him finish with 8 wins back to back and see if Bama still appreciates him or if they also become disgruntled.
Arkansas has continually shown a lack of willingness to regress. Maybe an occasional down year, but before long the screams of "settling for mediocrity" and "integrity over wins" bs starts. This is the reason so many still have a hard-on for Petrino, he wasn't here for the fall so they can't comprehend not only would he have fell, but he fell hard at Louisville (save me the because his AD was fired BS).
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:57 pm to DaleDenton
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He isn't a long-term solution, but he could get the program on sound footing and given his coaching tree likely have the longer term solution on staff to take over by that time.
I think this hire needs to be short sighted. Who can get us to where we are respectable in 3-4 years? That’s the question that the hire needs to answer.
I agree with everything you’ve said. The most important thing for this program is to get established again. This thing is a shell of what it was from 1998-2011.
4 years of a Butch, Les, or Skip to get the train back on the tracks. Then you follow one of those hires up with something to get you back to the upper echelon of college football.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:08 pm to Hawgeye
Agree
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:10 pm to Hawgeye
quote:
Skip Holtz
Put the bottle down
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:22 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Put the bottle down
Why is that? His overall record of 140-105 not attractive enough?
Someone who averages around 8 wins a season is all of a sudden not good enough for a program that can't even scratch out a league win in 2 full seasons?
He rebuilt ECU. Not sure what happened at USF but that short tenure seems to be the outlier. He has Louisiana Tech as a consistent 8-9 win a season program. Sitting at 6-1 currently.
You guys understand we are arguably the worst program in the SEC right now?
Butch Davis not good enough either? Just snub our nose at a guy who is 100-55 all time as a college head coach? Never mind the fact he has turned programs around at UNC and FIU.
What about Les Miles? No way would it be smart to hire a coach who has a 144-60 all time head coaching record. Of course not. He eats fricking grass. What program in their right mind would hire a 10 win a season guy?
Let's go hire Norvell, who has exactly four years of head coaching experience. No rebuilding experience. Underachieved last season and has yet to win a bowl game in his tenure.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:25 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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Sign me up for Sam Pitman for Arkansas head coach.
Never been a HC.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:34 pm to DaleDenton
I agree, Butch would be a good hire.
Rebuild the foundation.
Rebuild the foundation.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:39 pm to Kriegschwein
It's what Mack Brown has surprisingly done so far back at UNC.
After the hire he put good experienced coaches around him and flipped the franchise QB type from Florida State.
Arkansas' biggest flaw the program got away from the Broyles era was not valuing good assistant coaches. It's the place where a program should invest money for top end position coaches and not the head coach double digit buyout.
After the hire he put good experienced coaches around him and flipped the franchise QB type from Florida State.
Arkansas' biggest flaw the program got away from the Broyles era was not valuing good assistant coaches. It's the place where a program should invest money for top end position coaches and not the head coach double digit buyout.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:50 pm to ArHog
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Never been a HC.
Which means absolutely nothing. He is a kick arse recruiter and he knows how to coach an OL. One could deduce, based on that fact alone, that he could also coach and recognize talent on the DL. Both are areas where Arkansas has been terrible the past 8 years and are critical if we ever wish to become competitive again
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:57 pm to Hawgeye
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Go and hire someone who knows what Arkansas was and can be.
Morris went to A&M so I’m sure he knows plenty about our history.
Doesn’t have anything to do with being a good coach or not. People keep listing all these intangibles of what they require in a coach. I just want someone who wins regardless of the platitudes they put out there about their philosophy that may or may not even show up on the field here.
I think Fritz is a good coach but it would be hard to convince a lot of fans to get behind another coach with a losing record where he’s currently at.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:22 pm to RazorHawg
quote:
Arkansas' biggest flaw the program got away from the Broyles era was not valuing good assistant coaches. It's the place where a program should invest money for top end position coaches and not the head coach double digit buyout.
Bet bielema and you share a football philosophy there.
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