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re: O Line

Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:38 am to
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Wiggins in at OC.
Move Limmer back to RG.
Kick Latham out to LT.
I guess flip Braun to LG.



All of this!

Limmer is a roller coaster at center, and he’s going to cost us a drive or even a game with his bad snapping.

Left tackle was a train wreck yesterday. Manuel — who the coaches have been very high on — was getting absolutely worked. Kutas was not good at RT.

We need to find a solve and quickly.

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Also coaches have to decide on whether performances are different in games than in practices.


Speaking of, I don’t understand why E’Marion Harris isn’t playing. He was mashing guys in the Liberty Bowl.

I figured he’d be an opening day starter on the OL, but the coaches seem to be higher on guys like Manuel, Chamblee, and Kutas. This gets feel like practice all stars to me, whereas Harris has some good game tape (albeit a small sample size).

This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37341 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:54 am to
Crawford is a disaster on the right side.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:14 am to
I'd be okay with Chamblee or Manuel getting a shot at RT if Latham moved to LT.

Manuel was set to be our LT coming into the year until his injuries in fall camp allowed Chamblee to play.

Kutas is really young as far as OL go.

Young guys struggle on the O-line without continuity.

Edit:

Could also go something like:

LT Chamblee, LG Latham, OC Wiggins, RG Limmer, RT Manuel

I'd like to see Harris though get more PT after dropping weight but they might be trying to build him back up with muscle.
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:56 am to
The run game was terrible in 2010, everyone was blaming the o-line and flipping the line had to be the problem.

Turns out the holes where there and knile was the only back willing to hit them.

Only change was the rb and the problem was solved. They need to find the rb who goes north/south and isn't looking for a edge/corner that isn't going to be there...
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 12:10 pm to
Finally listened to the press conference. He seems really mad he isn’t getting the love fest he has gotten the past 3 years.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17224 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Only change was the rb and the problem was solved. They need to find the rb who goes north/south and isn't looking for a edge/corner that isn't going to be there...
I thought Dominique Johnson would be that guy but he seemed to tip toe and try to bounce it too much. He did look good blocking though
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/10/23 at 5:25 pm to
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Finally listened to the press conference. He seems really mad he isn’t getting the love fest he has gotten the past 3 years.



Sam doesn't do well with criticism...i'm hoping it's a graceful retirment and handoff to someone vs us firing him. it's got potential for another nasty divorce considering our fan base....
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
1640 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 5:29 pm to
Lord help us if people resort to banners again
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:28 pm to
Maybe it's just Biddy being Biddy, it isn't like other coaches havn't been irritated about his questions and comments in the past.

Hey coach, I realize you won the first two games easily, but why are you not playing only the starters like the games were against SEC opponents? It's a stupid question from a stupid man just stirring the pot.

He does this and wins 50+ to little, then later on an injury happens and it is why do you not have depth developed ready to fill in for the injured player?

Playing the non-starters for the last of the fourth in a blow out trying to run the clock out isnt quality reps for a guy you need to step in and up in a sec game...
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12656 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:40 pm to
I posted this in the other thread, but Fayette Villains dropped their quick breakdown of the game.

Spoiler alert: per the data, we actually ran the ball a bit better than people think we did.

FV Kent State breakdown

Adam Ford’s tweet of the data
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:13 pm to
Were they just rotating the OL in the fourth quarter or was it all game? I got the impression from Biddy that it was more than just late game sending the 2s in to get game reps. I don’t watch the line closely enough to know.

If it’s just a matter of getting them game reps, then why didn’t Pittman just say that? He seemed unusually bothered by the OL questions and if I remember correctly it came up three times in the interview.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:18 pm to
It's been all game the first two games. The defense has been rotating as well.

After a win, not a close win, and not a loss it's a stupid question meant to stir controversy and have something to "start a discussion". It's a self serving question to drive clicks, views, listeners on drive time. It's a waste of a coaches time in this context.

These are the same clowns who refused to ask tough questions when things were bad the last decade and the questions should have been asked to those staffs. Instead they lobbed softballs and aww shucks articles.
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
1640 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 9:18 pm to
I mean, advanced stats are fine but this is 2 weeks in a row that we couldn't pick up more than 4 ypc against a cupcake. Hope they get it figured out quick or conference play will be rough.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:19 pm to
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Maybe it's just Biddy being Biddy, it isn't like other coaches havn't been irritated about his questions and comments in the past.


Better than the midget who thinks we will win by 50 every game. And after a blow out, he says shite like is there anything you’d like to tell the fans criticizing you? Do you want to let them know that hurts your team and it’s all their fault for losses.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Sam doesn't do well with criticism...i'm hoping it's a graceful retirment and handoff to someone vs us firing him. it's got potential for another nasty divorce considering our fan base....


Oh it’s gonna be ugly. He isn’t giving up an easy 6+ a year.. there will be golden handcuffs and things. Divided fan base because he is one of us…

Then different groups will try to bring back an Arkansas son. Whether it be BLj or Gus…
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 10:21 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:36 pm to
They tried to do the same with Muss because he wouldn't kiss up to them and they started stirring the pot.

I remember when Arkansas lost a game, Muss had his hands covering his face. Some dummy asked him a stupid question and he began to get angry and wasn't far from lashing out.

They are so used to being pampered and nice to all the time that when someone like Sam or Muss refuses to play that game, they get offended and cry like a baby.

Arkansas has to have the worst sports media in the nation.

Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:47 pm to
Arkansas fans have been beatdown too many times over the years to have anything like the last two of the Nutt years.

I do agree the big whigs will go after an Arkansas guy like BLJ and go back to the Chad years.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17224 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:00 am to
I think it’s a little premature to be talking about new coaches guys at the end of the day we are 2-0
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 6:01 am
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
14833 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 7:16 am to
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Lord help us if people resort to banners again

I don't think we care enough as a fan base any longer to resort to that. Interest has waned dramatically from where it used to be. Most of us realize we are who we are.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12656 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 7:41 am to
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I don't think we care enough as a fan base any longer to resort to that. Interest has waned dramatically from where it used to be. Most of us realize we are who we are.


During Nutt era, we all thought our ceiling was higher than that as a program. Petrino proved that to be correct.

However, what we didn’t know was that our floor was much lower than we thought it was, as Bert and Chad proved.
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