re: I’m in the minority here….

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He coaches like an OL coach and not an experienced head coach. He hired Odom because he said that he had head coaching experience. Red flag. He has been learning on the job since day one. Another red flag.

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Do these coordinators who get promoted to head coach automatically have head coach experience because they were coordinators?

Maybe we should get that Aranda guy everybody fell in love with a couple of years ago, I’ll bet he’s still setting the world on fire.

Hiring coaches is a crap shoot and of all the coaches we’ve had only Frank Broyles has won a natty. And we’ve had some good coaches.


What is aggravating to me is we’ve had many outstanding players come through our program but they’ve never landed on the same team like a Bama or Georgia team or such. It’s always what if when it comes to football.

Oh well, at least I won’t last long enough to endure another 60 years of this, but I have seen some great games though.

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Hiring coaches is a crap shoot

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This is what gives me pause about moving on from Pittman.

I’ve said this before — we all thought our program’s ceiling was higher than Nutt apologists led us to believe (and Petrino proved that correct), but what we didn’t know is that our floor was much lower than we thought (as Morris proved).

Coaching hires are the epitome of a crapshoot, both in terms of elevating assistants and hiring established head coaches. For every Dan Lanning you get 5 or 10 Jack Crowes. A&M thought they were getting an established championship caliber coach, and they got Kevin Sumlin 2.0.

Aggy is more of indication of their program, they only time they've done better is when they were cheating their asses off or were coming off sanctions while everyone else was going on them in the SWC.

For Arkansas, HCs who do not understand the program fail, miserably, those who understand the importance of keeping and taking all available instate and local talent can use that talent to motivate them to "mediocrity" or winning records and bowl games. The stars have to align with instate talent to achieve major bowls and/or divisional wins.

The portal is key for Arkansas to raise this bar, you may not convince the player out of HS to come here over bama, LSU, Georgia, etc, but you can let him see the field after riding the bench there to try to live up to his 4 or 5 * billing out of HS.

Nutt averaged 7 wins a year and that was mostly without a QB.

Arkansas realistically can average 8 wins a year and you can say well that isn't much better than 7 wins a year.

Well it is because you have more 10 win seasons and more trips to Atlanta, more bowl wins and more chances to win the SEC.

The biggest problem is that Arkansas, they often let coaches stay longer than they should. Instead of moving on, they let them stay too long and it further pushes Arkansas down to the bottom again.

So while firing coaches too early is bad, letting them stay too long and getting worse each year is just as bad.

If Sam loses control and the team collapses this season then Arkansas has a decision to make.

They take a risk by keeping Sam with a possibility of getting worse or they can move on, Arkansas doesn't crash again and you have more interest in the job.

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If we're too scared to try and win at a high level then we might as well fold up the program.

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Don’t disagree.

As I’ve said in other threads, the bar for Pittman can’t continue to be “he’s not Chad Morris.”

The elephant in the room is the booster cadre waiting in the wings to hire Gus, who they’ve coveted for the better part of 2 decades. However, at least we have Yurachek standing in the way, who I trust much moreso than the Lord of the Flies group we had running things back in 2017.

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6 coaches, including intern... in 13 years. Dude, when a coach looks at that in consideration... I'd run like heck.. far, far away.

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most coaches don’t think that way. At least the good ones don’t. Because they aren’t concerned with the failure of others. They believe in themselves and that they’ll be the difference

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And as far as AU, our fanbase it terrible. 1/3 already want Freeze gone.

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How would y'all feel about a straight up trade?

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And as far as AU, our fanbase it terrible. 1/3 already want Freeze gone.


How would y'all feel about a straight up trade?

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LOL. I was not one of those on board for Freeze. But he is the guy now so we need to give him his time and let him get through the growing pains.

I know it is tough for Arkansas right now (more because of BYU than anything) but I still think this season may turn out better for Arky than many expect. I know the penalties are incredibly frustrating, but LSU is prob the best in the West atm and Arky would have won if not for some terrible miscues.

Not to go too pollyanna, but I think Arkansas is situated well within a few years. Pittman has Arky respectable but I think he retires soon. With both the big Texas schools coming in, I would think it is going to open up Arkansas to a lot more recruiting in Texas (more like how it used to be).

The West has been a meat grinder, but I have no clue how the new configurations will be. Hopefully the schedules will be a bit more balanced as well.

Win at all costs may seem great, but in my view it almost always cripples a program in the long run. Again, just my opinion.

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I support coach Pittman. He’s recruiting pretty well. I’m going to give him this season as long as they remain competitive and 3-4 games next season before I start calling for his head. The SEC West is a very difficult division to play in.

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It is pretty amazing how far this programs expectations have fallen since the early 2000's.

From 1995-2006 Arkansas won or shared the SEC West 4 times. Now, fans just want to be competitive and call it a day.

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I’m guessing the majority of people calling for his head have never played or coached on any level.

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Played Pee Wee, High School, and College.

There is a leadership issue when you commit the number of penalties this team commits. At some point, you have to call a spade a spade. It is also fair to question the personnel decisions that are made on a regular basis.

Arkansas has committed 36 penalties and lost 316 yards in just 4 games this season because of those flags. Arkansas ranks 121st in penalties overall. Arkansas ranks 124th in fewest penalties per game. Arkansas ranks 120th in fewest penalty yards overall. Arkansas ranks 123rd in fewest penalty yards per game.

Basically, each game right now we are going to pleasantly hand over to the opponent nearly 79 free yards.

That is unacceptable in year 4. It is actually unacceptable in year 1 of a tenure.