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IF we shitcan Pittman….

Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:32 am
Posted by Silverback911
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:32 am
I’d rather keep him around just with a functional O-line and a modern offensive scheme.

That said, if this is it, do you think Lance Leipold is interested? He’s not from the south, but has an exciting offense, and appears to have a good thing going in Kansas. I think he could be a solid hire that can get us to that 8-10 wins.
Posted by Billy Blanks
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:34 am to
I love coaching searches.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
We know his ceiling. Why fight a losing battle?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 12:49 pm to
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IF we shitcan Pittman….
I’d rather keep him around just with a functional O-line and a modern offensive scheme.

That said, if this is it, do you think Lance Leipold is interested? He’s not from the south, but has an exciting offense, and appears to have a good thing going in Kansas. I think he could be a solid hire that can get us to that 8-10 wins.



I'm as frustrated as anyone with them but i don't know that we move on him this year.... will depend on if we win another game or not i imagine. I doubt we lose out.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 12:56 pm to
They will beat FIU unless they give up before then.

Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:02 pm to
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They will beat FIU unless they give up before then.




I still think MIss State is winnable and I think mizzou is winanable as well.

that would have us at 5 wins. It's not a bowl game and the seat is warm but he's probably still here finding a new OL coach, and recruiting/coaching for their jobs.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:22 pm to
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that would have us at 5 wins. It's not a bowl game and the seat is warm but he's probably still here finding a new OL coach, and recruiting/coaching for their jobs.


Agree. I don’t think Yuracek would terminate him under this scenario. That’s probably about how it would pan out.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:29 pm to
We just need to hire a new OL coach first, hit the portal and bring in a few dogs for the OL. I haven't given up on some of our young OL players, but they are just that - young. Manuel, Chamblee, Kutas, Harris etc. all should be much improved with another year under their belts and a new coach.

98% of our problems this year relate to the OL.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:31 pm to
His seat would be warm starting the 2024 season.

If we learned from history, it gets worse next year.
Posted by JeffLebowski
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:56 pm to
Definitely. Very warm. Just don’t think Pittman would be fired if we finish winning 5+ games. I think we’d be more likely to fire our OL coach. Pittman might be able to lose out and keep his job. I honestly don’t know how much we care about football and winning. It’s become like trying to solve an impossible math problem here with football. Hard to watch when we see our baseball program(yes, I can be highly critical but I’ll put my foot in my mouth and be grateful) perform at such a high level and our basketball program resurrect in the manner it has. It feels like we have everything we need to be better than we have been but with football it always hits the fan.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 3:04 pm to
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I still think MIss State is winnable and I think mizzou is winanable as well.


Swap Mizzou with Auburn and I think you're probably right. Mizzou is playing some good football, probably the best team they've had in the SEC. Besides, they don't even have to have a good team to beat us every damn year

I think we definitely beat Mississippi State. UF, AU, Mizzou are all winnable but no guarantees there, could just as easily be losses - especially if this team lays down and quits. UF seems to be much better at home than away, Mizzou is a pretty complete team, and Auburn is getting better and better.

The question is, are we happy with 4-8 or 5-7 in year 4? Regressing once again, with our senior QB and shiny new coordinators? Our record is going backwards from what expectations should dictate, and next year we will have lots of question marks either way.

For me, it's not the losses themselves that have truly bothered me about this coaching staff - it's HOW we've lost.
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:37 pm to
I like Leipold a lot. If we can’t get him, go get his right hand man at OC
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:06 pm to
If Arkansas were to lose out then Sam would not survive.

Enough evidence would be provided that he lost control of the team and they lost confidence in him.

He absolutely cannot got 2-10.


With football it goes back to coaching and as of now Arkansas has lost 73 games by seven points or less.

17 of those were to G5 programs.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:09 pm to
2-10 through 5-7 are all the same for a coach in his 4th year, to me. Don’t know why some are trying to make a distinction
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:17 pm to
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2-10 through 5-7 are all the same for a coach in his 4th year, to me.


Uhhh, they are points in this equation bro. One is a showing of a lost team with no fight, the other is a showing of having a team still willing to fight and claw for a coach/system they love.

It matters, most definitely. I honestly do not care if we fire him or not, what in our history say's we will hire any better? What in our history say's we ought to suffer through and see if a build happens for stability? Either way we suck, and have since Petrino practically begged to come here before being hired.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:20 pm to
It is failure regardless.

Arkansas use to have expectations that if you had a losing season then you were in trouble.

When expectations get lower and lower then the program suffers to the point that coaches don't get fired and retained well past the point of winning back the fans again.

This is why the average stay is four years.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:24 pm to
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2-10 through 5-7 are all the same for a coach in his 4th year, to me. Don’t know why some are trying to make a distinction




I agree, 5-7 looks better than 2-10 or 3-9, etc. on paper. But in the end, you're still missing a bowl and regressing from last year's record - which was a regression in itself.

Going backwards 2 years in a row with a coach that's been here longer than a year, an experienced QB, a VERY down SEC, plenty of talent on the roster, and plenty of fan support, top facilities, NIL support... everything is essentially there for a successful season and program.

We're not talking about national championship expectations with this team, just winning the games that are there for the taking. And that's the most frustrating part of it all, the games we've lost have BEEN there for the taking without dumb coaching mistakes, clock mismanagement, sloppy play and penalties, shooting ourselves in the foot in new and innovative ways every week.

I wouldn't be nearly as frustrated if we just simply didn't have the horses to line up and win against these SEC teams and BYU. If we were playing our best and just got outclassed and out-talented it wouldn't be an issue and everyone could understand. But that's not the case, which is what has everyone up in arms
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:31 pm to
Yep.

FIU is terrible

Miss state is pretty bad

Auburn is mostly bad

Beating those 3 teams would mean next to nothing to me, if we finish with a losing record
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:37 pm to
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I wouldn't be nearly as frustrated if we just simply didn't have the horses to line up and win against these SEC teams and BYU.


have you seen our Oline... We don't simply have the horses on one of the most important/if not the most important pieces in football.

The Oline makes a crappy Qback look consistent and a good Qback Great.. .Not to mention mediocre to good Rb's... Dude...
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 5:40 pm to
If they beat those teams and still go 5-7 then that shitty BYU loss will be why.
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