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re: If we don't have KJ, how many games would we actually win?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:52 am to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:52 am to boogiewoogie1978
Kj is not good. I’d love to watch whatever quarterback some of you are watching. We can barely complete a pass. He holds the ball longer than anyone I’ve seen in a looooonnng time. Ever pass play is throw shut on a wall hoping it sticks.
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:55 am to Feral
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I would’ve expected KJ to be much more developed as a passer considering how long he’s been in this system.
He's substantially improved as a passer from where he was in high school. Perhaps he's just reached his ceiling. If he could pass like Peyton Manning with his running ability he'd be a top 5 pick.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:59 am to DeltaHog
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Kj is not good. I’d love to watch whatever quarterback some of you are watching. We can barely complete a pass. He holds the ball longer than anyone I’ve seen in a looooonnng time. Ever pass play is throw shut on a wall hoping it sticks.
KJ is a tight end.
The problem with most dual threat quarterbacks are they were the best player on the team always, so you stick the ball in their hand as a QB. They identify as QBs instead of what they should.
Malik should probably be a WR or Safety with that speed. Everyone says Manziel or Vick though! Those are exceptions.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:02 pm to gohogs141
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If he could pass like Peyton Manning with his running ability he'd be a top 5 pick.
If he could do that he would be mentioned in any draft reports. He isn’t. All anyone says is he is a load, and He throws an amazing deep ball.
I don’t believe he can read the defense, he holds the ball too long and when that evolves to pressure he takes off.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:48 pm to FayetteNAM
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All anyone says is he is a load, and He throws an amazing deep ball
Does he?
All I’ve ever seen is WR almost coming to a literal stop to wait on the ball. He rarely ever hits anyone in stride and he has zero touch. If he threw the ball worth a shite we would lob a fade once in a while inside the red zone….we haven’t thrown a fade…like ever.
Burks bailed KJ out BIG TIME.
KJ should be playing LB like Nick Saban told him in HS.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:58 pm to DeltaHog
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KJ should be playing LB like Nick Saban told him in HS.
How many millions has he cost himself by not doing so?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:06 pm to DeltaHog
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All I’ve ever seen is WR almost coming to a literal stop to wait on the ball.
This is what you're taught to do when you have a wide open receiver.
He hasn't been as good this year but how soon y'all forget some absolute dimes he dropped against Ole Miss and Mississippi State last year when we really needed them. He had clutch plays against Cincy and Missouri State that sealed the deal in those games as well.
At the end of the day we've done worse than a guy completing 65% with 9-1 touchdowns to interceptions even if his accuracy has been off at times. That doesn't even count passes like he had to Landers against South Carolina that were perfect and should have been TDs but were dropped. He actually has a higher QB rating this year so far than he did last year.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:20 pm to gohogs141
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At the end of the day we've done worse than a guy completing 65% with 9-1 touchdowns to interceptions even if his accuracy has been off at times. That doesn't even count passes like he had to Landers against South Carolina that were perfect and should have been TDs but were dropped. He actually has a higher QB rating this year so far than he did last year.
People have such short memories. KJ has one bad fumble and our fans forget he lead us to our best season in over a decade.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:30 pm to gohogs141
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He hasn't been as good this year but how soon y'all forget some absolute dimes he dropped against Ole Miss and Mississippi State last year when we really needed them.
So what has happened? Is he injured? Is he concussed? He’s essentially been a battering ram for two years. Has he simply regressed? Does Briles not trust him to make the needed throws, or maybe he doesn’t trust himself?
I appreciate the hell out of what he has done, and all the blood, sweat, and tears he has put into this program, but it’s painfully obvious that for whatever reason we do not have enough of a passing game to keep defenses honest. When you combine that with a defense that can’t cover, and then gasses out because out offense can’t sustain more than a drive or three per game, we’re done.
Something needs to change, so what should it be? I don’t think Pittman has any cover corners, or extra safeties in his back pocket, so the defense kind of is what it is this year. So we have to find a way to sustain drives, and score points, and given the defense, nearly every time the offense has the ball. The only way that happens is to demonstrate a balanced attack, so the defenses can’t just load up to stop the only thing we can do.
The question is, is KJ capable of that? Hate him or love him, he hasn’t really shown himself to be able to make the reads and throws to make that happen.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:46 pm to gohogs141
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He hasn't been as good this year but how soon y'all forget some absolute dimes he dropped against Ole Miss and Mississippi State last year when we really needed them. He had clutch plays against Cincy and Missouri State that sealed the deal in those games as well.
I’d have went with the deep ball against Missouri State to score within 16 seconds. The previous year only shows how much better Burks was.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:07 pm to Riggle
quote:Jesus Christ
KJ has one bad fumble
Yeah, there's no legitimate gripes with KJ's throwing ability at all.l
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:08 pm to Drewbie
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Yeah, there's no legitimate gripes with KJ's throwing ability at all.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and comparing him to AJ Derby
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:08 pm to Riggle
quote:One person in this entire thread made that comparison.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and comparing him to AJ Derby
Do you trust KJ to complete a slant more times than not? Simple question.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:10 pm to Drewbie
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Do you trust KJ to complete a slant more times than not? Simple question
Yes.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:11 pm to Riggle
Then you're the one with the memory issues.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:16 pm to Drewbie
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Then you're the one with the memory issues.
He had a nice completion on a slant to Knox last Saturday?
I'm just surprised at our fans acting like KJ has shite the bed this season. Beyond a few dumb mistakes, he's playing fine. Our QB play could be astronomically worse.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:20 pm to Riggle
quote:Only about 40 more to go until he matches the amount of times he's sailed, thrown behind, thrown at the cleats of, or flat out missed a slanting receiver.
He had a nice completion on a slant to Knox last Saturday?
quote:We've thrown for less than 200 yards 3 out of 5 games. I love KJ but we can stay realistic. His shortcomings hurt as much as his strengths help.
Our QB play could be astronomically worse.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:21 pm to Drewbie
I think people are a little more down than they should be. Regardless of what happens Saturday I think it’ll be a game.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:26 pm to troyt37
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So what has happened? Is he injured? Is he concussed? He’s essentially been a battering ram for two years. Has he simply regressed?
The numbers don't say he's regressed that much though. His QBR is higher, his TD-INT ratio is better, his yards per attempt is the same. Of course the schedule might be part of that and his completion % is down by a percentage so that's the only negative.
Our offense is painfully conservative at times and I haven't really been a huge fan of the playcalling this year but I don't think KJ is doing a bad job at all. I just wish we would take more shots down the field instead of all these screens that rarely go anywhere.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:27 pm to gohogs141
quote:Should be noted that a good chunk of those yards are yards after catch on 2 yard routes.
his yards per attempt is the same
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