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re: I will take heat for defending Morris in the past

Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:07 pm to
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Lots of us were told we were stupid by members of this board. Why did we not see what Chad was building here???? 

It's OK. I'm sure the crow is being eaten silently on the honor system



I don't get why some of our fans take such pride in this. "I said he was bad first, I win!!" It's basically a fan's purpose to be irrationally optimistic, otherwise what's the point?

None of us thought we'd be great or even that good, go look at the season prediction thread. We, however, DID think we should be improved over last year and it took a few games before everyone realized that wasn't the case.

Who cares if you said it before those few games or after? It literally means nothing other than you voicing concerns we all had, but chose not to convey right then. Nobody loved the hire to begin with.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:11 pm to
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Nobody loved the hire to begin with.

This consistently gets overlooked in the shite throwing contest. Chad never had "fans", only people advocating to wait a reasonable amount of time to pass judgement. Having to apologize for saying we should wait and see what he actually does first is ridiculous. No different from twitter outrage culture.

I advocated to wait and listed my expectations and the bare minimum required to make me content with his tenure so far. He has failed to meet any of them thus judgement has been passed. I'm not apologizing for that.
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 9:16 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:16 pm to
While I don't necessarily disagree with you, the signs where there from the start with the extremely undisciplined play... That's something a coach can change immediately.

Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:17 pm to
Oh god, just saw this

Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:20 pm to
For the record I never said chad would have guaranteed success (feel free to prove me wrong trolls). I said the same thing I said with Bielema and Petrino. New coaches need time. By trying to be reasonable and saying this I was labeled a sunshine pumper from miserable pieces of shite that take sports way too seriously. Regardless I still believe that and even though the bar was low this year we haven’t improved and that’s unacceptable.
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:22 pm to
Time is very important unless you are 4/24 as a HC in 2 years. That would be 1.666 winning %
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:23 pm to
Can you imagine...

If someone told 1969 Jerry Jones his future grandson would be below that former Aggie in the picture on the depth chart, would anyone blame him for using his influence to force Chad to play JSJ?
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:24 pm to
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But so should you motherfrickers who defended Starkel, especially the “we would’ve won the Ole Miss game with Starkel” idiots.

He is awful, worse than Storey tbh

I'm guilty. I admit that I had high hopes for Starkel.

But I had doubts about Morris ever since hearing about "full-tilt-boogie".
Posted by Litigator
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by City Ham
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:28 pm to
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I don't get why some of our fans take such pride in this. "I said he was bad first, I win!!" It's basically a fan's purpose to be irrationally optimistic, otherwise what's the point?


You're right. I'll keep my correct analysis quiet until every last laggard catches on to what is patently obvious. Will that comfort your sensitive feelings?

The folks in charge are the problem here. They do not know what they are doing, and they're not learning from mistakes. Simple as that. I'm not going to get optimistic until I see changes there. And I'm not going to blow smoke (or money) because "that's what fans do"
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:28 pm to
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I don't get why some of our fans take such pride in this.


It’s because we were persecuted for our opinions and we were proven right. It’s pretty common to take pride in winning an argument.
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:31 pm to
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I just dont understand how they couldn't find a serviceable QB between Storey, Kelley, Hicks, Starkel, or Jones. I call bullshite.


I mean the first two are now playing at lower levels, the next two were either cast off by other programs or their fans weren’t sad to see them go, and the last is built like a kicker.

Doesn’t help most of those are about as athletic as my grandma. Lynn Bowden ran for nearly 200 yards against Missouri tonight. Putting your best athlete at QB can sometimes mask a lot of problems. I would play Jones and Jefferson exclusively the rest of the year.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:31 pm to
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It’s because we were persecuted for our opinions and we were proven right. It’s pretty common to take pride in winning an argument.


Well you rode with Mike Anderson’s mediocre arse to the bitter end so win some you lose some
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:32 pm to
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For the record I never said chad would have guaranteed success (feel free to prove me wrong trolls). I said the same thing I said with Bielema and Petrino. New coaches need time. By trying to be reasonable and saying this I was labeled a sunshine pumper from miserable pieces of shite that take sports way too seriously. 


That's exactly what I'm saying, we all had our doubts to begin with but also any reasonable person knew it needed time. There was nothing to be gained by being miserable from the jump like some around here, what's the fun in that? Not like it would've gotten him fired last offseason.

I don't think anybody said or thought there would be guaranteed success. But at the same time you never know what can happen beforehand, even though some claimed they could.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Nobody loved the hire to begin with.
This consistently gets overlooked in the shite throwing contest. Chad never had "fans", only people advocating to wait a reasonable amount of time to pass judgement.


To be honest, I was disgusted by the Chad Morris hire. I was actually pissed when we hired Bert. I was willing to give both of them time to get it going. Bert never got it going and Chert is probably the worst HC we've ever hired.

All it would take is making a good hire and we would be back playing well in a couple of seasons.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:33 pm to
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the signs where there from the start with the extremely undisciplined play...
It was easy to assume an admittedly divided locker room played a huge part in that. Even good coaches deal with that shite when players don't buy in to a new regime change. Honestly the situation Chad was in offered enough excuses for him on its own. Part of the reason I wanted to wait. It was just impossible to pass definitive judgement with all of the bullshite involved in this circus. I still don't put it all on Chad. It won't surprise me at all to see him go win in the Sun Belt or some place similar. It's very apparent we have clowns running the show from the very top.

However, it's crystal clear he's in way over his head. I'll never judge a coach for not converting the existing roster over to a polar opposite scheme and philosophy in year 1, but a year 2 like this after all of the transfers and a good injection of new talent in the offseason puts every nail in the coffin with a quickness. There has to be progression. There's been none.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:34 pm to
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Well you rode with Mike Anderson’s mediocre arse to the bitter end so win some you lose some


Well if Chad could rise to the level of mediocre people wouldn’t be calling for his head in year 2.
Posted by Porcine Human
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:34 pm to
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But at the same time you never know what can happen beforehand, even though some claimed they could.


This. Fan "analysis" is nothing more than educated guesses
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Well if Chad could rise to the level of mediocre people wouldn’t be calling for his head in year 2.


I can deal with mediocre in football, not in basketball after 8 years.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:37 pm to
Bruh, Mike was never this bad. It’s a false equivalence.
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