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I know it's not realistic, but what are y'all's thoughts on the Big 12?

Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:53 am
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11668 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:53 am
It would do wonders for our football program imo. Being in the same division as Alabama and LSU is a fricking joke.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:03 am to
Need a coach first, we can’t beat SJSU right now.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11668 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:09 am to
Sure but I'm thinking long term.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3429 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:10 am to
Saban/bama can’t maintain this level indefinitely. They had about 15 years of bad coaching in between national titles. They’ll hire another dud at some point. Coach O is only as good as his assistants. I’d actually be surprised if it ends well for him at LSU.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:27 am to
I'm sorry. Going to the Big 12 is just a weak move. We proved with both Petrino and Nutt we can compete with the right coach. Also we'd lose to Kansas this year. Conference is not the problem. The coach is.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 10:28 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68485 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:28 am to
I'd hate it for baseball and basketball.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11668 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:37 am to
Yeah, Petrino and Nutt and not a single conference championship to show for it.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:00 am
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:53 am to
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I know it's not realistic, but what are y'all's thoughts on the Big 12?

I'm glad we are not in it.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19333 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:00 am to
I'm all for it. I think it makes sense on a multitude of levels.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:00 am to
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Winning 10 games once every half decade is not consistently competing

Houston should have won 10+ games 4 times. Petrino led us to back to back 10+ win seasons. We don't need to change conferences. We need a good coach. Look at LSU before Saban. Perennial Mediocrity. They had two 10 win seasons from 1970 to 2000. We can compete. We can dominate.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:04 am to
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what are y'all's thoughts on the Big 12?


Would love to make the move, we've never belonged in the SEC and our record proves it.

Money has ruined college football though so we'll be content with winning 3 or 4 games every year as long as we get that SEC check. Even though moving to the Big 12 would breathe new life into the program and revitalize the fans.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26734 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:05 am to
We would be leaving the most stable and lucrative college sports conference in America for a conference that is hovering on the brink of death.

Given that the SEC would respond to our departure by raiding the Big 12 we would likely be joining a Big 12 in even worse shape then it is now. If and when the Big 12 goes under, which would not take long, we'd be forced to find shelter in the MWC or Conference USA.

Arkansas would become the second coming of Tulane. All of our sports programs would suffer a grisly death as we spiral into G5 hell.

Other than that its a great idea.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:11 am to
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a conference that is hovering on the brink of death.


They have 4 teams in the top 25 currently, the SEC has 5. Why do people think the Big 12 is about to collapse? They're fine.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:16 am to
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we've never belonged in the SEC and our record proves it.
It proves we never had the right coach to compete long term in the SEC. Not that we don't belong. I'm sorry but moving to the Big 12 is a bitch, weak move that screams "we are massive pussies and admit total defeat" and I will be damned if we move to another conference on that note. If we move, it will be from a position of strength, not on a "we suck so much arse, we need to move to a shittier conference". That's bullshite. We should be called the Arkansas Razorpussies from that point forward if that were to happen.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
2919 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:19 am to
I think we'd still be middle of pack at best. And the schedule would be way worse. 50k size crowds would become the norm. UT, OU, and OSU might have as many fans at Razorback stadium as us.
Posted by ArCoRazorback
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:29 am to
That would be awesome.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18166 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:29 am to
I’m so damn tired of this stupid fricking argument. We had our best years when the conference was at its highest. The sec was objectively better in 2011 and we finished ranked no.3 in the country. We aren’t sucking all of a sudden after damn near 30 years in the sec because of the conference. We’re sucking because we’ve hired arguably the 2 worst coaches in Arkansas history back to back after having one of the worst interim head coaches of all time. The only thing that would change if we moved to the bug 12 is we’d be getting our shite pushed in by Oklahoma Texas OSU and Baylor every year instead of LSU bama auburn and A&M. Of course we would keep the Aggies on our schedule so they’d still get to kick our arse too
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18166 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:31 am to
Look at my above post. We did fine in the sec whenever we had a competent head coach. Honestly Saban is gonna be gone long before Lincoln Riley so I’d rather stick in the conference where you’ve only got the guaranteed loss for maybe the next 5-10 years instead of the conference with a guaranteed loss for the next 20.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:33 am to
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I'm sorry but moving to the Big 12 is a bitch, weak move


We are so far out of the public consciousness in football that no one will care. It would be exciting and help with Texas recruiting.

It's also not just about sucking, the move would be better for our fans. Old rivalries and closer road games.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:35 am to
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We had our best years when the conference was at its highest. The sec was objectively better in 2011 and we finished ranked no.3 in the country.


So a good year makes up for the other 27 years where we don't compete for jack shite? Speaking of stupid fricking arguments.
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