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Arkansas Football has a branding/marketing problem

Posted on 2/9/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 1:31 pm
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Very long in-depth article, and even more in length, worth a read.


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We wanted to find out exactly how high school football players perceive the Power 5 schools, so we asked 224 recruits to grade their interest and desire in each program as if they were the number one recruit in the country (i.e. they had offers from every school). This process gave us a peek into the minds of the most important demographic: teenage football players. Everyone who follows college football surely has an opinion on every program and, consciously or unconsciously, has their own personal ranking system comprised of all the brands. However, a middle-aged man probably has a different, more favorable perception of a once-gloried program than a young teenager who never witnessed a winning season. Rather, the lifeblood of a college program lies in the minds of high school football players. These rankings show us the critical hierarchy of schools within recruits’ minds. This is the closest thing to the NCAA’s version of the NFL draft. The teams at the top of these rankings will get the first picks and the teams at the bottom of the rankings will get the leftovers. Pro teams can squander high draft positions through poor talent evaluation and thus poor draft selections while college teams can squander favorable brand positioning with poor talent evaluation, poor recruiting execution, or poor player development. However, in terms of raw “draft capital,” this is how teams position themselves for future success. Pro teams tank seasons and acquire additional draft picks to improve positioning. College teams hire creative marketing staffers and build fancy new facilities to improve positioning.
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Why is this critical? Whereas sports like basketball or even professional football can be so greatly influenced by one individual or a small number of individuals (i.e. outliers), college football is an exercise in the principles of statistics. One of the first lessons in Statistics 101 is about the probabilities associated with flipping a coin. Of course, the true probability of landing heads on any given coin flip is 50%. However, if you flip a coin ten times, there is a decent chance you will get an 8:2 heads:tails outcome due to the low number of overall coin flips. If you flip a coin 1 million times, it is impossible to get a 8:2 heads:tails ratio due to the high number of coin flips. Instead, you will get a near perfect 5:5 heads:tails ratio. With each additional coin flip, the ratio of heads to tails will move closer to the true probability of 0.5. To connect this analogy back to football, think about these brand rankings as a ranking system of the true probabilities assigned to each program’s likelihood to land any given high school recruit regardless of circumstance. Clemson would then have the best probability to land any recruit it wants, whether it be the number one recruit in the country or the number 5,000 recruit in the country. Stanford would have the best probability to land an academic-minded recruit over the likes of Duke, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern. Kansas would have the worst probability to land any given recruit when competing against its fellow Power 5 brethren.

?Darlow added, "The more you invest in quality marketing, the more sales tend to improve. Once programs realize that they themselves are brands, and that the recruits they are selling their school to are the buyers of those brands, they will recognize the necessity to invest in marketing. Imagine a world where the top prospects are beating down your door, not the other way around."
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 1:38 pm to
Emphasis is already being made with new staff.

Clemson really dominates on social media and are ahead of everyone in connecting with recruits and youth.

Clemson's secret weapon

Another 247 article
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41608 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 1:54 pm to
I find it very hard to believe the results of any study that has high school football players rating the brand of Michigan State significantly higher than Alabama.
Posted by 870Hog
99999 posts
Member since Jul 2011
16189 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:10 pm to
Yep, credibility was loss with Bama being below pretty much anyone.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
64926 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 2:11 pm to
Northerners are crazy
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19657 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:17 pm to
I'm absolutely shocked.

Posted by Senior Sidewalker
Member since Oct 2017
722 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:47 pm to
But we have sweet Nike jerseys, and Jeff Long was such a great businessman!!
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
67674 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:57 pm to
We have a coach that is literally dropping in on recruiting events now. We'll be fine.

We're going from this:



To this:



Give it time.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:59 pm to
We've discussed this before, and it includes stupid shite like taking the recruits to tha Catfish Hole to be pawed upon by white trash.

We have so many better places in town to take kids than out Wedington.

Hey, lets have the kids run out of a "pen" on gameday, like they're livestock, because hey, pigs of some kid, right?

Let's play that terrible Hank Williams song every game and make it a feature at Baum. College kids love that shite.

Our Athletic Department is pretty terrible at branding. It's like there's a goober from Alpena with a high school diploma making marketing decisions up there.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7688 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Let's play that terrible Hank Williams song every game and make it a feature at Baum. College kids love that shite.


Eh, not like we have a problem recruiting for baseball.

There aren’t a lot of places with “street cred” in Fayetteville to take them unfortunately
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
19118 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:50 pm to
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Hey, lets have the kids run out of a "pen" on gameday, like they're livestock, because hey, pigs of some kid, right?


Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what they are thinking
Posted by Senior Sidewalker
Member since Oct 2017
722 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:38 pm to
Catfish hole needs to go. It's not a place any student would ever go anyway. It would be better to take them to JJs on Dickson. Give them a feel of actual college life, check out some tail, etc

They don't care about the food. They're 18, they eat whatever mom makes them
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Let's play that terrible Hank Williams song every game and make it a feature at Baum. College kids love that shite.

Baseball is one of the only sports (outside of track) that we recruit well. Maybe we should play Hank more.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:33 pm to
Catfish Hole is good for the coaches show but doesn't need to be the staple for recruiting.

I do think we take them to a really nice steakhouse on Dickson. We used to feed them in the stadium as well.

It would be cool for us to move the recruiting staple to somewhere on Dickson.

The wife and I have yet to go inside this place but YeeHawg looks like it might appeal to Texas recruits:

YeeHawg Insta
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:41 pm to
It would also help if our fans actually knew and participated in our cheers and traditions.

The hog call is hokey to a ton of outsiders (and some "fans") but a loud and in unison hog call will give you goosebumps.

Also.... would it hurt for our fans to actually wear Razorback gear to the game? Some people look like they just stumbled into the stadium.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41608 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:51 pm to
I wish more of our fans knew the fight song. I find, in my section, that it’s usually just me and my wife standing up and singing it after a score pretty much by ourselves. Very rare am I surrounded by folks that know it.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63749 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:58 pm to



Gonna miss this guy
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:59 pm to
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I wish more of our fans knew the fight song. I find, in my section, that it’s usually just me and my wife standing up and singing it after a score pretty much by ourselves. Very rare am I surrounded by folks that know it.

I'm actually in a good section of the SOC that has a fair amount of alumni so we do the fight song and alma mater but it's amazing how many people don't know or just don't do either.

I think part of the blame is being able to sit down and play on your phone during the pre-game. Back in the day you either stood up or you looked stupid sitting down doing nothing. Now it's the opposite. That's why I always try and sit next to the band during away/bowl games. At least we won't be alone doing the fight song.

I hate the aggies. I think they are weird and don't really respect much about their program. BUT I do respect the fact that they can coordinate and get a crap tons of fans to participate in their yells and cheers. It's pretty damn impressive.
Posted by Senior Sidewalker
Member since Oct 2017
722 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:20 pm to
How the hell were we behind Kentucky in revenue??
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
19118 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:44 pm to
Ever watch that sport that requires you to dribble and shoot a ball through a "hoop"?
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