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Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:40 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I read on another site that Scanlon turned the job down and that’s why there wasn’t an announcement today?
So many smoke screens.
I promise, GOBN or BOT will leak info out.
#notJeffLong
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:43 pm to RazorBroncs
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Scanlon is picking up steam for the AD position, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens soon.
He’s my first choice among the non-traditional AD candidates.
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I've heard Venables being thrown around A LOT the last couple days now as well. Interest is being shown from one of the two ends, our current status would lead me to believe his end. I'd be comfortable with a defensive guy like him if he's paired with a good, experienced OC.
I’m not opposed to Venables, but I’m not a fan of going back to the well of a defensive coach. Plus, Bielema sort of proved that this is not a league in which you want your head coach learning on the job, which we got with Bielema respective to the dynamics of the league. We need to move back toward a head coach with an offensive, spread-based pedigree.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:49 pm to RazorBroncs
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I've heard Venables being thrown around A LOT the last couple days now as well. Interest is being shown from one of the two ends, our current status would lead me to believe his end. I'd be comfortable with a defensive guy like him if he's paired with a good, experienced OC.
The thing about Venables.
All of my 0U friends were happy to see him go.
Clemson beat Bama in spite of him not because of him.
I don't see the attraction to the guy.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:53 pm to DaleDenton
Just think, next year we can spend an extra $40 per month for the internet sports tier to watch all of this drama unfold!
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:12 pm to DaleDenton
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All of my 0U friends were happy to see him go.
This is true a lot of the time regardless of coach though, usually just a form of sour grapes or coping. Hell our fanbase is one of the worst about doing it, see all the shite thrown on the walls when Petrino left.
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I don't see the attraction to the guy.
I wouldn't be opposed to him or anything, but he definitely wouldn't be in my first 5-6 choices. I've just heard his name thrown around an unusual amount, usually something there.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:21 pm to RazorBroncs
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Hell our fanbase is one of the worst about doing it, see all the shite thrown on the walls when Petrino left.
Wait til we get Gus
shite will get real
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:43 pm to ArHog
I agree with Chesh on needing an Offensive Minded GENIUS No on Sumlin, no on Venables, NO ON GM....
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:34 pm to DaleDenton
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The thing about Venables.
All of my 0U friends were happy to see him go.
Clemson beat Bama in spite of him not because of him.
I don't see the attraction to the guy.
I think the attraction to the guy is that he has built Championship caliber defenses everywhere he's been.
There at Clemson they basically built that program from the ground up. I'm pretty confident that the guy knows how to build a winner.
That being said, he wouldn't be my first choice, but I think he's a potential low risk, high reward type hire.
What's an interesting possibility to me, I think, is that I'm not so sure you couldn't lure him away in a lateral move provided you bumped his pay considerably and gave him an assistant head coach title.
Give me a Norvell Venables combo if I'm in the toy store.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:46 pm to RazorBroncs
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I've heard Venables being thrown around A LOT the last couple days now as well.
Venables is who I've had money on for awhile now. Like I said in previous post, he wouldn't be my first choice if it were me making the calls, but he would certainly get a look.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't interview quite well for the position. Very well respected dude and Dabo obviously made a good decision hiring him.
Besides which, I wouldn't have heard to keep an eye on him the day after the Carolina game if he wasn't interested. We could do much worse, IMO.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:26 am to BoarEd
What ties does venebles have to arkansas? if any at all? It just seems like the last 2 coaching searches people have brought him up, and I just do not see why he would keep trying to get hired here.
He has been passed over several times for HC positions. That is a red flag.
He has been passed over several times for HC positions. That is a red flag.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 1:53 am to russellvillehog
If we are going high risk, high reward why Venables? Hire an up and coming offensive HC.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:37 am to russellvillehog
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What ties does venebles have to arkansas? if any at all?
To be honest I don't know. I do know though that he spent a great deal of his career right down the road there with Stoops. So he certainly has familiarity with recruiting the areas we need to recruit in order to be successful. He WOULD like to take this job. I'm certain of that. I'll try and find out today why he seems to like Arkansas.
A couple other things about Venables. He is a Broyles award finalist. He is a Broyles award winner. He has coached in like 6 National Title games. He is overqualified for his job, according to his own boss Dabo Swinney. He has been named one of the top 25 recruiters in the nation. And most importantly, IMO, is he has seen what it takes to build a winning program from the ground up.
The guy is an outstanding coach and he has expressed interest in this job multiple times now. I'll see if he has family or something here, because it seems weird to me too that this would be one of his destination type jobs. Maybe his wife has family here.
Either way, I would not be opposed to him getting a shot at all.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:56 am to BoarEd
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A couple other things about Venables. He is a Broyles award finalist. He is a Broyles award winner. He has coached in like 6 National Title games.
I’d forgotten this until looking back at his resume.
He coached as DC in 4 for Oklahoma (2000, 2003, 2004 and 2008) and 2 for Clemson (2015, 2016).
That’s pretty damn impressive.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:19 am to Feral
I firmly believe that any success that can be had at Oklahoma can be duplicated here. I don't see any inherent advantages that program has over Arkansas.
Give me the guy that knows how to get it done there.
Give me the guy that knows how to get it done there.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:20 am to BoarEd
He's never even been a head coach.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:20 am to BoarEd
Well they've had way more succcess historically, which gives them a big boost in recruiting. That's the difference
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:26 am to Feral
I'd rather have Venables then Gus. And yes, I know Gus is on the verge of potentially making it to the SEC championship game and possibly the CFP this year. The SEC West is about as bad as its been any time since the 90's so the impressive record loses a bit of luster. Not to mention all those years with top 10 recruiting classes while putting up 7-5, 8-4 type records.
I'm worried that Gus is a one trick pony and that everyone knows what that trick is now. He'll be able to run over less talented teams but teams on an equal talent footing, or better, will shut him down.
His pig headed stubbornness is also a concern. He has several games a year where he refuses to change what he is doing, even if its obvious that it isn't working. When he has a massive talent advantage, like he does this year, then Gus can find a way to win. I'm a bit gun shy about hoping we have a massive talent advantage over everyone on our schedule.
Would he be an improvement over Bielema? Well considering that the big feller is about to wrap up the dubious honor of being the single worst head coach at Arkansas to last at least five years I'm sure he would.
I'd rather roll the dice on Norvell or Venables.
I'm worried that Gus is a one trick pony and that everyone knows what that trick is now. He'll be able to run over less talented teams but teams on an equal talent footing, or better, will shut him down.
His pig headed stubbornness is also a concern. He has several games a year where he refuses to change what he is doing, even if its obvious that it isn't working. When he has a massive talent advantage, like he does this year, then Gus can find a way to win. I'm a bit gun shy about hoping we have a massive talent advantage over everyone on our schedule.
Would he be an improvement over Bielema? Well considering that the big feller is about to wrap up the dubious honor of being the single worst head coach at Arkansas to last at least five years I'm sure he would.
I'd rather roll the dice on Norvell or Venables.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:04 am to Arksulli
So many ridiculous statements in this post:
Oh boy. Sure, let's hire the guy who has never been a head coach in his life at one of the toughest jobs in the SEC. Great idea! Not only that, he's a defensive coordinator when we need an offensive wizard to be competitive with our inherent talent disparity.
Four teams in the top 25. NEXT.
Why the unnecessary hyperbole? You think Auburn has a MASSIVE talent advantage over Georgia? Is that why they beat them so badly? Do you think Auburn has a massive talent advantage over Alabama? Because they're about to beat Bama too.
Here's a helpful tip for people like you and Reverend: NO ONE frickING CARES IF YOU LIKE GUS. There, now you guys can stop posting the exact same thing in every thread.
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I'd rather have Venables then Gus.
Oh boy. Sure, let's hire the guy who has never been a head coach in his life at one of the toughest jobs in the SEC. Great idea! Not only that, he's a defensive coordinator when we need an offensive wizard to be competitive with our inherent talent disparity.
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The SEC West is about as bad as its been any time since the 90's so the impressive record loses a bit of luster.
Four teams in the top 25. NEXT.
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I'm a bit gun shy about hoping we have a massive talent advantage over everyone on our schedule.
Why the unnecessary hyperbole? You think Auburn has a MASSIVE talent advantage over Georgia? Is that why they beat them so badly? Do you think Auburn has a massive talent advantage over Alabama? Because they're about to beat Bama too.
Here's a helpful tip for people like you and Reverend: NO ONE frickING CARES IF YOU LIKE GUS. There, now you guys can stop posting the exact same thing in every thread.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:15 am to Stonehog
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Not only that, he's a defensive coordinator when we need an offensive wizard to be competitive with our inherent talent disparity.
This is a MASSIVE fricking myth.
If there were any truth to this stuff Arkansas would have never fielded a talented defense, ever. And they have. Many times.
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