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Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:42 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:42 am
LSU 26
ARK 0
Killed us, but we knew it was going to be a problem this year.
ARK 0
Killed us, but we knew it was going to be a problem this year.
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:53 am to WonderWartHawg
We commin'.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:16 am to WonderWartHawg
Insane that after the rebounding disparity that Arkansas only lost by 2. Was a weird game.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:20 am to Hogwarts
We watched it at work, and we were all saying the same thing....how in the hell are we in the game? Coaching, pure and simple. This team never gives up and they’re always scratching and clawing. That comes from the top. I can’t wait until Coach Miss gets some these stud recruits in here. We really hit a HR when we got him.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:49 am to Arkapigdiesel
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I can’t wait until Coach Miss gets some these stud recruits in here. We really hit a HR when we got him.
We are going to be soooooooo nice next year.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:58 am to WonderWartHawg
You cant tell me they weren't coming over the back on some of these with the way they were crashing the boards.
We were getting called for nickle and dime fouls all night. Unreal.
We were getting called for nickle and dime fouls all night. Unreal.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 4:37 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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You cant tell me they weren't coming over the back on some of these with the way they were crashing the boards.
and Days was throwing elbows all game ---- which is not a problem if they weren't calling whisper fouls on us.
Most people can deal with bad officials if they are consistently bad on both sides.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 4:41 pm to hilltophog
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Most people can deal with bad officials if they are consistently bad on both sides.
Eh, its on the road. We should get the same advantage at home. It has been better over the last few years but you still have to beat the refs on the road in college basketball more times than not.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:13 pm to WonderWartHawg
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LSU 26
ARK 0
Killed us, but we knew it was going to be a problem this year.
Muss subscribes to the current philosophy, which is also prevalent in the NBA, that offensive rebounds are unimportant. Yes you take them when you get them, but you are not sending 4 to crash the boards with the 5th player "back" at the free throw line. You are just begging for run outs to take place against you with the strategy LSU took last night.
This is why Arkansas doesn't get offensive rebounds, they are not emphasizing offensive rebound because the majority of the shots are are going to be 3s or long twos which lead to long rebounds, so you send the guards back after the shot and sacrifice rebounding opportunities in order to have an opportunity to set your defense.
This isn't going to change in the future, even when he does have "size" your going to see 4 guard line ups, the goal would to be increase your size of guards, in stead of 6' guards you want 6'6"ish guards. You trade speed and ball handling for strength and size at the 3/4 spot and play a guy who is more of a 4 who can handle at the 5 instead of a traditional back to the basket center.
Offensively Muss wants his team to also improv instead of relying on sets, improv being using basic offensive movements and rotations found in offenses like the Motion where screens take play away from the ball, options of the screens are available basically the defense will always give you an open shot, may not be the shot you want at the time but someone will be open.
Muss isn't that far removed from Nolan/Anderson in what the want their teams to do or how they want their rosters to look, the biggest difference is full court press vs half court defense. Mix of man and match up zone compared to man only.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:15 pm to DaleDenton
If we had the Big O last night, LSU would have been blown out or would have had to quit crashing the offensive boards, baseball pass to streaking guard for the dunk, over and over and over. This is why you don't send 4-1/2 men to get an offensive rebound.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:20 pm to DaleDenton
He sure was bitchin' in the video I saw about not getting rebounds to not care about them.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:40 pm to WonderWartHawg
Defensive rebounds.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:54 pm to DaleDenton
Just need to get the softness out of the guards. Toughen them sumbitches up. Stop complaining, and scratch and claw for a rebound.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:22 pm to DaleDenton
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his is why Arkansas doesn't get offensive rebounds, they are not emphasizing offensive rebound because the majority of the shots are are going to be 3s or long twos which lead to long rebounds, so you send the guards back after the shot and sacrifice rebounding opportunities in order to have an opportunity to set your defense.
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Defensive rebounds.
and Muss said....
"“Obviously, we got annihilated, destroyed, whatever word you want to use on the glass,” Musselman said Thursday. “We still played a 2-point game against a really good team and had an opportunity to win, which I think anybody in any sport when you go on the road you want to give yourself an opportunity at the end of the game. The effort was outstanding. Anybody that watches us play talks about how hard we play. We just didn’t rebound the ball at all. When I mean at all, I could take five of us in the media right now, and we could have defensive rebounded just as good as our team did last night.”
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:47 am to Razorback Reverend
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we could have defensive rebounded just as good as our team did last night.”
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defensive
I didn't see his presser, watching the games it obvious what his philosophy is in regards to the topic.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:32 am to DaleDenton
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I didn't see his presser, watching the games it obvious what his philosophy is in regards to the topic.
So he also talks about blocking out, I suppose that's just a novelty.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 7:33 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:27 pm to DaleDenton
Regardless of philosophy, it was the 26-0 stat that hurt us the worst in the loss.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:53 pm to WonderWartHawg
Not having Chaney out there is what killed us more than anything. He is a good rebounder. He has to find a way to stay on the court. If he had given us 20 minutes or so we would have won that game.
Also, if Jones hadn't fouled out I think we would have won it anyways, but not having Chaney was huge. We probably would have won comfortably if Chaney just learns to calm the frick down.
Also, if Jones hadn't fouled out I think we would have won it anyways, but not having Chaney was huge. We probably would have won comfortably if Chaney just learns to calm the frick down.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:22 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Regardless of philosophy, it was the 26-0 stat that hurt us the worst in the loss.
It was a gamble to have all 5 crash the offensive boards for LSU, but that is what it took to keep them in the game, if Arkansas could have rebounded defensively and made LSU pay for the gamble via runouts, you have a blow out.
Watching the game it wasn't surprising to hear Dykes not know how to explain Arkansas being in the game and at the time leading with the offensive rebound difference being what it was if you payed any attention to his time as a HC.
Arkansas leads the SEC in forced TOs and Steals, this is largely due to trading Offensive rebound opportunities in order to have the opponent face a set defense each trip down the court.
What hurt Arkansas worse than LSU's offense being comprised of second chance points was yet again with a slim lead under 4 to go in the second half the offense became stagnate and went deep in the shot clock before trying to score, in no way to invoke the spirit of Chad Morris, this is when they need to put it in the left lane and hammer down, they got lucky at GT, this cost them the games to WKU and LSU.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:47 pm to DaleDenton
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was a gamble to have all 5 crash the offensive boards for LSU, but that is what it took to keep them in the game, if Arkansas could have rebounded defensively and made LSU pay for the gamble via runouts, you have a blow out.
what's scary though is that lsu isnt exactly a large team. were gonna see this type of effort again
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