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Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:21 am to Notherdamnhog
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:21 am to Notherdamnhog
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Has anyone brought up WTF Wernes brings to the staff
I dunno...maybe the fact that his infielders have put up the below numbers...
2024: .981 Field Pct.
2023: .981 Field Pct.
2022: .982 Field Pct.
2021: .980 Field Pct.
Wernes coached infields have never had a season below a .980 fielding percentage.
Prior to Wernes coaching the infielders...
2019: .972
2018: .972
2017: .976
2016: .970
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:29 am to Feral
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Depends on how he took (and responds to) getting benched.
Kid seems to be humble and have a good head on his shoulders. He probably gets that you can't end the season going 6/47 with 21Ks when you're fighting for a spot in the lineup.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:24 pm to Notherdamnhog
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Has anyone brought up WTF Wernes brings to the staff other than the stupid forearm shiver and a stopwatch at 1st base?
A former player who knows the culture? One who worked for free for like 3 years? Seems like a great person to have in the program by all accounts.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:55 pm to Billy Blanks
quote:I stand corrected on Bobby Wernes. Thanks to you and Hawgeye for pointing out the ignorance in my post.
A former player who knows the culture? One who worked for free for like 3 years? Seems like a great person to have in the program by all accounts.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:04 pm to Notherdamnhog
The long paid hitting coach is a target, which opens the door to other assistants on the staff. I get it.
Bobby has been great. He coaches the infielders and catchers. I’d also admit that I was down on White’s receiving ability early in the year but he got progressively better by the end of the season. I’d almost say he made a large leap behind the dish.
Bobby has been great. He coaches the infielders and catchers. I’d also admit that I was down on White’s receiving ability early in the year but he got progressively better by the end of the season. I’d almost say he made a large leap behind the dish.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:24 am to Hawgeye
They’re all part of the problem.
Program has become complacent and entitled. Dave and his minions consider 2018 a title, we stay in denial about players getting worse while they’re here and we continue to choke in spectacular fashion over and over and over while our approach stays the exact same.
Ole Miss and State got their titles, UT will likely get theirs and we are going to be at home again with the same staff, talking about some made up recruiting class where none of the actual studs make it to campus, pumping up directional JUCO/CC tweener transfers, our facilities, sec west titles and the best fans in baseball.
DvH has instilled choke culture and I’m not sure how that changes without a wholesale overhaul. We’re basically Kentucky basketball of the past 10-15 years except with zero titles. Pretty ironic.
Program has become complacent and entitled. Dave and his minions consider 2018 a title, we stay in denial about players getting worse while they’re here and we continue to choke in spectacular fashion over and over and over while our approach stays the exact same.
Ole Miss and State got their titles, UT will likely get theirs and we are going to be at home again with the same staff, talking about some made up recruiting class where none of the actual studs make it to campus, pumping up directional JUCO/CC tweener transfers, our facilities, sec west titles and the best fans in baseball.
DvH has instilled choke culture and I’m not sure how that changes without a wholesale overhaul. We’re basically Kentucky basketball of the past 10-15 years except with zero titles. Pretty ironic.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 6:25 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:04 am to STLhog
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DvH has instilled choke culture and I’m not sure how that changes without a wholesale overhaul. We’re basically Kentucky basketball of the past 10-15 years except with zero titles. Pretty ironic.
The fragile mentality of the program is obviously the biggest issue. Van Horn is one of the worst big game moment managers I've ever seen. In a tense situation, they show him in the dugout snd he looks like he's about to have a stroke
That shite trickles down to the whole team.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:46 am to Jack Ruby
It would be so Arkansas for DVH to retire next season and anoint Nate HC

Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:39 pm to Hawgeye
I doubt very seriously this guy knows anything, but it's strange that he would say this regarding DVH:
DVH post on tRant.
DVH post on tRant.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:51 pm to STLhog
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DvH has instilled choke culture and I’m not sure how that changes without a wholesale overhaul. We’re basically Kentucky basketball of the past 10-15 years except with zero titles. Pretty ironic.
This makes no sense. If our fans would look at the schedule, they will notice our stats started dropping off pretty good whenever we started routinely playing top teams every weekend. It's not magic. First half was pretty weak, second half was loaded
If Wilmsmeyer catches that HR we are hosting a Super right now and all the hot air in this place is gone. People need to chill
K State scored on two walks, two weak knocks, a bunt, and a HR that gets caught if the wind is blowing. That's baseball people. If you don't understand that maybe the sports not for you. It was a great game despite the outcome for a real baseball fan
We actually were pretty clutch in the K State game. We scored in the 8th. We put up a 2 run HR in the 9th. How many other college baseball teams would've given up and mailed in after the 5th - I would suggest many. Did we win, no. But putting up 3 runs in the last 2 innings of a Regional is far from going into a shell in the clutch
I'm glad DVH was brutally honest in post-game presser. It was true. He knows this team was not stellar and was carried by a few ballplayers. He knew this would happen when he saw who signed in the draft. This was not coach speak and I think the winners on the team appreciated his candor. The losers- who cares what they think. They will be enrolled at Tarleton State in a month
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:23 pm to Porker Face
Always the same narrative and excuses with the draft.
We lost to SEMO at home with the season on the line. What more needs to be said?
We lost to SEMO at home with the season on the line. What more needs to be said?
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:29 pm to STLhog
Did you completely blow past where I shredded your claim that we were anti-clutch?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:31 pm to Porker Face
Only a hog baseball fan would call blowing a 2 ru. lead and then flaming out to SEMO at home “clutch”.
K State sucks.
K State sucks.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:23 pm to STLhog
We were overrated all season, anyone paying attention could see that. Why this team was considered top 10, besides the pitching, is beyond me.
It’s probably because of Dave that folks have a high opinion of the program, but it puts a target on them.
It’s probably because of Dave that folks have a high opinion of the program, but it puts a target on them.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:04 am to Clark14
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Why this team was considered top 10, besides the pitching, is beyond me
They started ranked in the Top 3 or so and lost as few series as anyone else until the last few weeks. Where else would they be ranked but the top 10? As we all suspected the offense was a problem, but it never corrected itself. Unfortunately the pitching also fell off the second half of conference play. It sucks and DVH is likely our Mark Richt but this level of play and consistency is not something I would have thought possible 10-15 years ago. Hopefully Nate is shown the door but if we hit on just a few more key players it can all be different.
Even LSU and State show what one year can make a difference in this portal era.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:41 am to Mason Dixon Swine
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Even LSU and State show what one year can make a difference in this portal era.
But neither team has Nate Thompson on their staff.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:17 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Seems to me DvH has brainwashed everyone into thinking everything just "is what it is".
If we can't hit. "It is what it is, that's just baseball"
Pitching and player development fall off. "it is what it is, that's just baseball"
We rely too heavily on recruiting guys that never make it to campus "just baseball"
We continue to choke in major moments and lose big series at home to much lesser teams/programs and in Omaha. "it is what it is, its just baseball".
End of the day, all of this stuff has become a mainstay with the program and a "characteristic".
It's time to admit it. If we're good with it, so be it but it's become clear we probably don't have what it takes tg get us over the hump with the current staff/approach.
If we can't hit. "It is what it is, that's just baseball"
Pitching and player development fall off. "it is what it is, that's just baseball"
We rely too heavily on recruiting guys that never make it to campus "just baseball"
We continue to choke in major moments and lose big series at home to much lesser teams/programs and in Omaha. "it is what it is, its just baseball".
End of the day, all of this stuff has become a mainstay with the program and a "characteristic".
It's time to admit it. If we're good with it, so be it but it's become clear we probably don't have what it takes tg get us over the hump with the current staff/approach.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:00 pm to STLhog
Vandy just fired their hitting coach of 7 seasons and another assistant.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 4:43 pm to UltimateHog
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Vandy just fired their hitting coach of 7 seasons and another assistant.
I'm hoping DVH is working behind the scenes to get Nate a head coaching gig at another school. If things remain status quo, things will head in a direction that I don't think we are all going to like. They are already headed that way, but I believe things will start to taper off with our baseball program.
My opinion.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 4:59 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
quote:does this mean Vitello is our Kirby smart?
sucks and DVH is likely our Mark Richt
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