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Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:10 pm to beebefootballfan
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:10 pm to beebefootballfan
Maybe of Mussey was here. Maybe he accepted the job and flew back to Nevada to speak with his family, players, university.
Wishful thinking I suppose.
Wishful thinking I suppose.
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:14 pm to razorbackfan4life
Sure is a decent amount of Shocker fans on their board that have some very mixed feels about HCGM these days. Decent bit of negativity, they must be starting to get a little restless.
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I am still in shock that 4.3 million/year just stood there and watched the opponent go a 21-3 end game surge and other than a few shakes of his wrist watch, just watched it happen.
Unfricking believable.
That is all.
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That was 4.3 million worth of piss poor end game management - it was HS level at best. No, not even HS level.
FVV probably put a bag over his head when exiting so no one knew who he was associated with.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:15 pm to razorbackfan4life
will be interesting to see. would like to see some ace recruiter hired as an assistant with any of those mentioned
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:16 pm to UltimateHog
Wichita State would be on the fast track back to the OVC without him...
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:19 pm to oklahogjr
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would like to see some ace recruiter hired as an assistant with any of those mentioned
Plenty will be available one the SDNY and FBI finish up.
Have them do the dirty work, resign, plead guilty, serve time, profit with a final four.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:21 pm to UltimateHog
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Sure is a decent amount of Shocker fans on their board that have some very mixed feels about HCGM these days. Decent bit of negativity, they must be starting to get a little restless.
Classic example of becoming a victim of your own success
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:23 pm to oklahogjr
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would like to see some ace recruiter hired
Totally agree, but I think Mussleman could be that himself with what we have to offer here.
I think the only thing holding him back right now is that the only thing he really has to offer recruits is his self.
Imagine what he could pitch to kids with our resources. Real NBA development, the same kind Golden State is using. Always on TV, huge arena, and top notch practice facility.
I only looked into this guy once his name started popping up, but I am Impressed.
Marshall is a guy that will impress the rant.
Mussleman is a guy that will make you bookmark the rant.
Just my opinion.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:26 pm to Ham Solo
The ending of that game was the most Mike Anderson thing I’ve ever seen. Give me EM and call it a day.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:34 pm to Ham Solo
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I think the only thing holding him back right now is that the only thing he really has to offer recruits is his self.
Trent Johnson and Mark Fox both found enough to sell at Nevada to eventually land in the SEC.
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Real NBA development
Which is what exactly? Getting HS superstars to know their role on a roster? He would still be overshadowed in this department by Cal, K, Roy, and Self, not that they actually "NBA Develop", but they recruit players the NBA drafts at a high frequency.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:35 pm to beebefootballfan
A play was drawn up and not executed by the players?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:36 pm to DaleDenton
Dale I’ve yet to hear you opine as to who your choice is. Maybe you have and I missed it.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:37 pm to cubsfan5150
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A play was drawn up and not executed by the players?
A blown double digit lead and a deer in the headlights look.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:38 pm to beebefootballfan
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A blown double digit lead and a deer in the headlights look.
Its just the NIT.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:39 pm to beebefootballfan
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Dale I’ve yet to hear you opine as to who your choice is. Maybe you have and I missed it.
You did.
I'm more excited that the buzz no longer surrounds certain candidates.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:49 pm to DaleDenton
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He would still be overshadowed in this department by Cal, K, Roy, and Self, not that they actually "NBA Develop", but they recruit players the NBA drafts
First if his name was anywhere in that company that would be great.
Second, particularly talking about Cal, who has he developed? He and the rest of those guy, especially here lately just get the best of the best and send them off. No development needed.
Mussleman has made his living off transfers that aren't living up to potential. He improves their game and wins.
Even if he's an ace recruiter he won't get the one and done guys here, but maybe he can get the guys a tier or two under and develop them.
The one and done teams seem to fail around the elite 8 to teams with more experience here lately.
I think Mussleman is a guy that can find a niche under the one and done programs and beat them with the guys they passed on and let transfer.
All that being said, if we are arguing between him and Marshall, I think we are in a lot better shape than we have been in the past.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:56 pm to Ham Solo
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Second, particularly talking about Cal, who has he developed?
Camby.
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He and the rest of those guy, especially here lately just get the best of the best and send them off. No development needed.
That's my point. However, all will be said to be able to "get you" to the NBA on the recruiting trail.
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Mussleman has made his living off transfers that aren't living up to potential. He improves their game and wins.
Even if he's an ace recruiter he won't get the one and done guys here, but maybe he can get the guys a tier or two under and develop them.
The one and done teams seem to fail around the elite 8 to teams with more experience here lately.
I think Mussleman is a guy that can find a niche under the one and done programs and beat them with the guys they passed on and let transfer.
All that being said, if we are arguing between him and Marshall, I think we are in a lot better shape than we have been in the past.
That said, living off transfers means one of a few things really, he tries the Frank Haith strategy of graduate transfers which leads to a "new team" every year or he has a short bench due transfers sitting out to become eligible.
Ideally it would be a mix, taking advantage of the transfers available to compliment the HS talent recruited. Basically end of a with a roster that is never too young or too old.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:05 pm to DaleDenton
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Camby
Exactly, you had to go that far back. That was about 2 or 3 eras ago in college basketball.
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all will be said to be able to "get you" to the NBA on the recruiting trail.
Mussleman will be able to say that based off his resume in the NBA. Much more so than someone like Marshall. Let's not forget we are arguing between him and Marshall, not Cal, Roy, Self, or Donovan.
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Ideally it would be a mix, taking advantage of the transfers available to compliment the HS talent recruited. Basically end of a with a roster that is never too young or too old.
100% agree, but I think we give that opportunity, which he doesn't have now. Top tier highschool kids ain't headed to Nevada. He adapted and made it work.
If he comes here I think he would close on our in state guys and mix them nicely with transfers and jucos.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:06 pm to DaleDenton
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Camby
When your lone example is from 25 years ago, you make his point for him.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:11 pm to DaleDenton
In a matter of a day and one nit gameI've totally flipped from thinking Marshall is the best choice, to convincing myself musselman is the guy.frick I'm glad I'm not an AD.
So much hnges on this hire.
I mean it's obvious, with Marshall we would absolutely be improved, and maybe even make a run or two over a few yers, but it kind of feels like musselman is really just now finding his sea legs as a coach and could blast the program into a long-lost level.
I don't know. We would all be satisfied with either. If those are the 2 names, many programs would be falling all over themselves to be in that position.
So much hnges on this hire.
I mean it's obvious, with Marshall we would absolutely be improved, and maybe even make a run or two over a few yers, but it kind of feels like musselman is really just now finding his sea legs as a coach and could blast the program into a long-lost level.
I don't know. We would all be satisfied with either. If those are the 2 names, many programs would be falling all over themselves to be in that position.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:14 pm to Ham Solo
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Exactly, you had to go that far back. That was about 2 or 3 eras ago in college basketball.
To be fair, I can't recall the latino twins name that could ball on that team. That entire team was stacked top to bottom, for UMASS.
Also to be fair, the majority of the "development" is handled by assistants anyway.
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Mussleman will be able to say that based off his resume in the NBA. Much more so than someone like Marshall. Let's not forget we are arguing between him and Marshall, not Cal, Roy, Self, or Donovan.
He's coached in the NBA, but doesn't have a record of sending guys to the NBA, its splitting hairs, but not really. When BAMA hired Avery the thought he was the basketball Saban because he played and coached in the NBA, no way these guys are going to want to go to a blue blood when they can play for him at bama.
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100% agree, but I think we give that opportunity, which he doesn't have now. Top tier highschool kids ain't headed to Nevada. He adapted and made it work.
If he comes here I think he would close on our in state guys and mix them nicely with transfers and jucos.
His recruiting efforts and philosophy will need to change in regards to instate recruits. It isn't as simple as "I was a HC and fired from two different NBA teams, lets get you up to the hill from da rock, and I'll have you in the league in no time" which is followed by screams of joy and a commitment...
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