re: 2018 Arkansas Football and Basketball Recruiting Thread *C Ibby Ali Commits*

Cool. I'll calm my tits.

Just hate seeing us down the charts like that.

If that's the case, hell of a job by this staff given the shite sandwhich Bert left.

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Hell, they were recruiting 2019 players all day while at the 2018 signing day ceremony.

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I agree, they are already recruiting 2019 class hard. Should be a good class.

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Odom is so toast.

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We can make room for him.

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How is this class worse than Bert's first class?

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Bert's first class is one of the best we've ever signed in the SEC.

Alex Collins
Hunter Henry
Denver Kirkland
Austin Allen
AJ Derby
Dan Skipper
Martrell Spaight
Drew Morgan
Sam Irwin-Hill

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How the F are we lower than Ole Miss? The numbers again?

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Ole Miss has signed more highly regard players than us, while on probation, less than a year removed from a sex related scandal forcing the HC out.

Embarrassing? Yes. However Luke took his shot seriously and worked as if he was already the permanent HC not just the interim and it paid off for them.

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Bielema also had preexisting relationships like Collins and hired P5 assistants namely Pittman, Shannon and Partridge that used relationships built that year and helped get players in year one.

Morris and his staff were the first to offer many kids in the 2018 class but when it became apparent they would be P5 athletes those relationships faded and our guys tried to rekindle after being hired here but with ESP it was too late. Being at SMU it would be a waste pursuing P5 recruits with no shot at going to G5 school.

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That is the benefit of hiring an established HC vs an up and comer.

Not that the PTB did Chad any favors by wasting time playing footsie with Gus so he could get a better contract at Auburn while having to also find a new AD.

I need to do a real quick information check for the idiots who call into Bo's show. In particular, the dipchit who said John L. Smith had a higher signing class than Morris.

John L. Smith never had a recruiting class.

The 2012 class was signed BEFORE Petrino's wreck. Petrino was fired in April during spring ball.

John L. Smith was appointed intern after the wreck and helped a little with the 2013 class but ultimately Bielema recruited those athletes.

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Ole Miss has signed more highly regard players than us, while on probation, less than a year removed from a sex related scandal forcing the HC out.

Embarrassing? Yes. However Luke took his shot seriously and worked as if he was already the permanent HC not just the interim and it paid off for them.

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People overlook things like this when they defend finishing last in the conference in recruiting by throwing out lines like "the early signing period was devastating in conjunction with transition." Almost half the SEC had coaching turnover. Surely, it affected them just as drastically, right? Did they get out recruited by Vandy and Kentucky too?

ETA: This class needs almost everyone in it to develop and contribute or we might be fricked for a while

Each signed more 4* players than we did.

So yes they got more highly regarded players than we did.

Piss and moan all you want but any class with 16 members is going to be near or at the bottom unless you sign a Clemson class signing the #1 player out of 6 or 7 states. The group Bielema handed over to Morris wasn’t a great class and we only kept four of those guys. ESP made rekindling and developing relationships near impossible.

Our player average is higher than Kentucky, Missouri and Vanderbilt they were only able to sign more bodies therefore they get a higher score.

Florida, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Mississippi State are all in more talent rich areas and hired coaches or staffs from the P5 level that had relationships with players at previous job. We did really good H2H with State considering we got Bishop, Mason, Winkel all who they wanted. All of those teams signed 22-23 except Florida who signed 19 but Florida is Florida. They won multiple H2H matchups over Bama yesterday.