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re: Why is Byrne saying this mess about OOC schedule?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:44 pm to bamabonners
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:44 pm to bamabonners
If you don't know why he said that, you don't know anything about football. The exclusion of Bama, USCe, and OM in favor of Boise, ASU, Clemson, and SMU is a result of a laughably bad format that seems to value all conferences at about the same level, which is just silly. If we're not going to get the "SEC bump" for playing in easily the hardest league there is, then why would be add additional exposure to risk by scheduling anybody other than Mercer and other FCS schools in OOC?
Indiana looked at their B10 draw this year and went all in, knowing they basically needed to split UM/OSU for a really good shot at the playoffs, so they paid a million dollars to get out of an OOC game against a preseason ACC darling in Louisville in favor of some FCS school I've never heard of and weren't punished for it at all. That right there is what Byrne is talking about.
Indiana looked at their B10 draw this year and went all in, knowing they basically needed to split UM/OSU for a really good shot at the playoffs, so they paid a million dollars to get out of an OOC game against a preseason ACC darling in Louisville in favor of some FCS school I've never heard of and weren't punished for it at all. That right there is what Byrne is talking about.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:37 pm to bamabenny
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If we're not going to get the "SEC bump" for playing in easily the hardest league there is
I understand that, but we didn't lose to the hard teams. Why should we get that SEC bump when we lost to OU and Vandy? That's what I'm trying to understand... Are you saying OU would win other p4 conferences? I don't think so...
Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:46 pm to bamabonners
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I understand that, but we didn't lose to the hard teams. Why should we get that SEC bump when we lost to OU and Vandy?
You clearly are only thinking about this season when Byrne is thinking about the upcoming seasons. Teams were rewarded this year for not playing anyone with a pulse with a playoff berth. Meanwhile, next year Alabama has to play Florida State and Wisconsin, the year after that they play West Virginia and Florida State, in 2027 they play West Virginia and Ohio State. We have future games on the schedule against both Oklahoma State and Notre Dame. Add to that we still have the grind of an SEC schedule to compete with.
With all of this in mind, there is absolutely no reason to keep those games on our schedule if they aren't going to do anything but hurt our chances at making the playoffs.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:48 pm to bamabonners
The deal is, like someone mentioned here before, there's apparently two metrics that matter: conference championships (and those can come from a flag football conference if need be) and losses.
Quality wins against ranked opponents don't seem to count, nor do close losses against quality teams. A loss is a loss and no extra credit for quality wins. So, that being the case, why risk a loss?
Byrne is right that this isn't what anyone who cares about CFB wants, but the issues with the CFP pale in comparison to what transfers and open-ended buying of players is doing. Picture concrete sliding down the chute from the truck. That's CFB as of December 9, 2024.
Still worried that he didn't know to keep his mouth shut. They call it the "unspoken part" for a reason.
Quality wins against ranked opponents don't seem to count, nor do close losses against quality teams. A loss is a loss and no extra credit for quality wins. So, that being the case, why risk a loss?
Byrne is right that this isn't what anyone who cares about CFB wants, but the issues with the CFP pale in comparison to what transfers and open-ended buying of players is doing. Picture concrete sliding down the chute from the truck. That's CFB as of December 9, 2024.
Still worried that he didn't know to keep his mouth shut. They call it the "unspoken part" for a reason.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 5:52 pm to bamabonners
The #1 factor in you ranking is # of losses. We shouldn't schedule any difficult non conference games. Losing them hurts you way worse than winning them helps you.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:58 pm to RollTide1987
All the explaining in the world can’t help an individual gain the capability for abstract thinking. It’s imperative to being able to recognize the difference between a reactive and proactive statement.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:38 pm to StansberryRules
Byrne is absolutely right. Cancel all future potentially tough out of conference games and replace them with also rans. Nobody says jack shite every year when the BIG loads up on directional Michigan or MAC shite tier teams and then beats their chests about how "dominant" they are.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:24 pm to HarryBalzack
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Still worried that he didn't know to keep his mouth shut. They call it the "unspoken part" for a reason.
He doesn't have to be quiet about this. In fact he strategically spoke about it to show there are consequences to screwing Alabama.
You tired of giving us our rightful place and expect us to work harder and do more than others to get the same result?
No thanks.
We won't and the television networks who sat quietly while the B1G screwed us will reap the benefits of lower audiences when people tune out of watching Georgia vs Furman instead of Clemson and Alabama vs Austin Peay instead of OSU or FSU.
The fact people ignore the wear and tear of a season from playing harder matchups just shows how disingenuous the media and the committee is as well
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:39 pm to YStar
After hearing that nonsense from the announcers during the ACC Championship game I hope our AD cancelled every single game we have scheduled with a P5 school and replaces them with ACC schools. I hope he targets SMU.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:43 pm to YStar
"and the television networks who sat quietly while the B1G screwed us will reap the benefits of lower audiences when people tune out of watching Georgia vs Furman instead of Clemson and Alabama vs Austin Peay instead of OSU or FSU."
The thought of this brings a smile to my face. And not a kind smile.
The thought of this brings a smile to my face. And not a kind smile.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 2:08 am to Alfie Solomons
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All the explaining in the world can’t help an individual gain the capability for abstract thinking. It’s imperative to being able to recognize the difference between a reactive and proactive statement.
Exactly, theres a certain very loud segment of the fanbase on this board that its pointless to debate with because they are incapable of seeing any forest through the trees. There is a high correlation between being one of these people and also screaming that the coach needs to be fired every other play.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:23 am to RollTide1987
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Meanwhile, next year Alabama has to play Florida State….
Why do you think FSU hired the Gus Bus?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:34 am to Bamafan24
In the current format, he's not wrong
IN and SMU show if you schedule anyone besides cupcakes, you're stupid
Of course the system will change before anything can be done
IN and SMU show if you schedule anyone besides cupcakes, you're stupid
Of course the system will change before anything can be done
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:15 am to YStar
I was talking this through with my wife and the thought occurred to me that the CFPC is responding to criticisms of the decisions they made the past two years (rarely ever a wise move).
Two years ago, they had little choice but to include TCU in the playoffs. They got past Michigan and then had their clock cleaned by UGA. The following year, FSU sits there, champs of another cellar dweller conference and they're left out of the playoffs. There were only four spots and five P conferences, so this was bound to happen. Who gets left out? - the team with the weakest schedule. FSU's vagina is caked in sand, they blame the other teams in the ACC for this calamity (correctly), proceed to shite the bed at the Peach Bowl (peaches are a great source of fiber), then sue the ACC to get out.
Now comes SMU from the same shitty conference. I really think the CFPC had in their minds that if they exclude SMU - the second ACC team in a row to be be rebuffed because their conference is shite - that they be signing that conference's death warrant. Americans who believe in the power of free markets say that's the way things go: get better or get gone. The CFPC is a fan of some other way, apparently.
But this is all just an academic exercise. Bama LANKed the bed against dead-man-walking Oklahoma and Vanderbilt's version of JFFB.
Two years ago, they had little choice but to include TCU in the playoffs. They got past Michigan and then had their clock cleaned by UGA. The following year, FSU sits there, champs of another cellar dweller conference and they're left out of the playoffs. There were only four spots and five P conferences, so this was bound to happen. Who gets left out? - the team with the weakest schedule. FSU's vagina is caked in sand, they blame the other teams in the ACC for this calamity (correctly), proceed to shite the bed at the Peach Bowl (peaches are a great source of fiber), then sue the ACC to get out.
Now comes SMU from the same shitty conference. I really think the CFPC had in their minds that if they exclude SMU - the second ACC team in a row to be be rebuffed because their conference is shite - that they be signing that conference's death warrant. Americans who believe in the power of free markets say that's the way things go: get better or get gone. The CFPC is a fan of some other way, apparently.
But this is all just an academic exercise. Bama LANKed the bed against dead-man-walking Oklahoma and Vanderbilt's version of JFFB.
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