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"We all we got.. we all we need"

Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:20 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:20 am
That's a direct quote from Terrion Arnold regarding how the fans trashed the team after the USF game.

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“The USF situation as far as just seeing how people treated us after that in this fanbase and with our fans, the model I’ve been preaching to the guys – ‘We all we got, we all we need.’ And that’s something that we’re continuing to see with the growth. I feel like we haven’t played our best football yet,” Arnold said.



No wonder Saban had a softer approach. Everyone was against these guys, trashed their talent and wanted Saban to join the masses of onslaught.

Instead Saban defended and coddled them, receiving insults from the fanbase along the way with accusations he has gone senile and soft. Once he got them to turn the corner he reignited "chewing arse" to spur them forward knowing he had their entire trust.

What actually happened was a masterstroke because the kids rallied around Saban and now play as if they are trying to defend his honor and not just their own.

Posted by Bama72
North Alabama / Alabama Alumnus
Member since Apr 2021
505 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:16 am to
A general rule of coaching. You can push a winner a lot harder than you can push a loser. If you push them too hard when they lose, they lose confidence. You push them harder when they win because they already have confidence.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1904 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:26 am to
People were ready to cast off this team after Texas, and predicted 9-3 or even 8-4 following the USF game

It’s possible to acknowledge there’s areas that are struggling without abandoning hope entirely. Amazing to me that there’s still people out there thinking Milroe isn’t the answer, and I guarantee you if we lose to UGA, there’s a few “Bama fans” that will practically be celebrating “they were right” and Simpson should’ve been the guy all along
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by father2sons
In the woods, Alabama.
Member since Mar 2023
2249 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:40 am to
I think the fanbase as a whole is pleased with this team now as long as they beat Auburn.

If we lose to Georgia I think it’s a great season considering how we looked the first 4-5 weeks.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:44 am to
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Simpson should’ve been the guy all along


I don't think anyone will argue this after this weekend. My man still made one of the worst rookie mistakes in CFB

I think Jalen is playing well, but I'm going to be skeptical until we play UGA. How will he respond to the best defense he has seen this season? If he rises to the occasion, I'm not worried about any team we see in the CFB Playoffs. If he regresses, then he shows that he still needs further development. The most important thing that I personally want to see is sustained consistency. Consistency to not back down / regress against high level competition. Hopefully he shows that
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:05 am to
It's no secret the team started to get better once Jalen settled in.

Tommy Rees should get a ton of credit for the way he approached Jalen and told him to identify the things he was uncomfortable running and subsequently tossed that shite in the dumpster.

Seeing a young coach and a young player figure stuff out together like that makes me smile.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:09 am to
Couldn't agree more. This is where I think BoB failed miserably. He had no offensive creativity, and simply hurled the entire offense on Bryce's shoulders. BoB with Milroe would have been a disaster of Milroe standing in the pocket trying to go through 4-5 reads per play, and getting sacked constantly. Rees has done a phenomenal job of breaking the game down for Jalen, giving him 2-3 quick reads in the same area of the field, and then allowing him to use his athleticism. You can tell Milroe is more comfortable in the pocket, because he STEPS UP in the pocket. He doesn't loop around the outside of the pocket and run out of bounds for a 10 yard loss anymore. Hopefully he keeps progressing and Rees can keep adding more creative ways to help him succeed.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:55 am to
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My man still made one of the worst rookie mistakes in CFB


I was watching that Washington Utah game with my cousin when that LBer dropped the ball like 3 yards before the endzone, and I said to him something along the lines of "think about how Saban would react if a Bama player did that." Welp
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 11:59 am to
Rees is an intense dude. You can tell his brain is always trying to process, assess, and address.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
So the fans are the reason this team is doing so good? Sweet!


Also this team was a mess at the beginning of the season. Who could blame anyone for what was thought or said.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 3:20 pm to
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So the fans are the reason this team is doing so good? Sweet!


Nick Saban is the reason.

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Also this team was a mess at the beginning of the season. Who could blame anyone for what was thought or said.


No the team was a work in progress with talent at QB which hadn't been developed by the previous OC.

The new OC (which I was highly critical of) came in, developed the players and took instruction to change the playbook to match the talent and maximize what they can do. The talent responded well to the coaching.

Saban is Saban inspire of the fans
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:05 pm to
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So the fans are the reason this team is doing so good? Sweet!



This was sarcasm



The other was the truth. The team was a mess. Idk if I've seen a Nick Saban coached team that big of a mess. The offensive line had no idea what they were doing. Which was my biggest concern. I thought Milroe would come around he just needed more experience.

It's ok to say things were a mess. In the end the coaches got things figured out and on the right track. Which is what they are paid to do.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:18 pm to
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The other was the truth. The team was a mess. Idk if I've seen a Nick Saban coached team that big of a mess. The offensive line had no idea what they were doing. Which was my biggest concern. I thought Milroe would come around he just needed more experience.



I wouldn't say they were a mess. Defense wasn't a mess. WRs and RBs weren't a mess. Milroe struggled as expected, but I wouldn't even consider his play up to that point "a mess." The oline had some gaping holes, so I reckon you could call that a mess.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 4:31 pm to
I don't remember anyone ripping the defense. The offense was abysmal. Fans are going to fan. Fans will continue to fan until sports aren't a thing anymore. Just the way she goes.

After the Texas game Nick said they deserved to get shite on by fans and the media. It was a bad performance.

However the team needs to get motivated then I'm all for it...I just think OP wants to trot by on his high horse because he continued to pump sunshine after seeing Simpson and Buchner play nauseating football. Hey good for you.

Fans are emotionally invested. That's why I recommend staying away from the internet while watching the game if you're easily flustered. You're only going to regret what you say.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:18 pm to
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Fans are emotionally invested. That's why I recommend staying away from the internet while watching the game if you're easily flustered. You're only going to regret what you say.


My father was this way. We was watching Bama play Penn State in 89. PSU was lined up on the 18 to kick the game winning kick.

He kept telling me, “Bama is gonna block this kick son!” Bama blocked it and he punched me on top of my right leg with his left fist and it wasn’t a tap, it was a hard arse punch!

He jumped up and said, “ I told you they was gonna block it!” I looked up said, I wished they would have made it!” My father was 6’7” 260lbs and strong as a bull. Gave me one those purple and yellow bruises that lasted for a wk.
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2283 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:18 pm to
Alabama played like shite with 2 shite QBs and the fans are to blame from the fallout? No.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3225 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:55 pm to
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How will he respond to the best defense he has seen this season?
Statistically he has already played the best defense he will see. Believe it or not, A&M’s defense is or was on par with Georgia’s.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50423 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:00 pm to
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USF game


Losing to Texas and then almost losing to USF shouldn't have instilled confidence in anyone.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18186 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:00 pm to
Thanks for sharing. That's a great fandom perspective of both the vested adult and semi-interested child. We can all relate, and at some point we all became our fathers.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
303 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Instead Saban defended and coddled them, receiving insults from the fanbase along the way with accusations he has gone senile and soft.


Saban coddled the players ? If true then dang these guys are softer than charmin
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