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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:05 pm to Crimsontide1713
Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:05 pm to Crimsontide1713
ha is what it is man. truthfully im just glad to see theres bama fans who care at all.
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:21 pm to rushball
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coming from a guy who called mo a one trick pony with no skill or potential then refused to explain why but also not too long ago found it rational to proclaim jarin as still an nba guy this season despite having what most would say, a frustrating one at the very least. ironic indeed.
If all else fails, just make shite up and pretend I said it.
Like, I told you, I'm not going to try to explain things to you that you'll refuse to see. I don't care if you understand. If you think Mo is going to explode and be Herb 2.0, then great. You're going to be disappointed. He's a solid role player, and I like him. His efficiency will go down, not up, if he gets more minutes.
I'm not going to argue with you.
Bookmark this.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:21 pm to Crimsontide1713
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Don’t bother, this board is full of hypocritical trolls. They’ll make shite up and then ignore you when you call them out for it.
Dude got 7 down-votes for posting this. This board is so warped.Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:37 pm to LovetheLord
Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:48 pm to CCTider
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How meant middle aged black men have you ever met named Brody?
Zero.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 9:22 pm to Teague
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If all else fails, just make shite up and pretend I said it.
Like, I told you, I'm not going to try to explain things to you that you'll refuse to see. I don't care if you understand. If you think Mo is going to explode and be Herb 2.0, then great. You're going to be disappointed. He's a solid role player, and I like him. His efficiency will go down, not up, if he gets more minutes.
I'm not going to argue with you.
Bookmark this.
yes, you made up several inacurate assumptions about me and mo, including what you just did by assuming ill ''refuse to see'' again for some odd reason. i guess its all people like you can do to cope and no, i truly dont care to argue with you so next time i state the obvious about mo it would be great if you dont go out of your way to trash what was quite objectively one of the most productive players on the team without atleast giving a reason as to why.
here is your direct quote from 2/27/25. youre welcome.
Jarin will be a starter here next year, assuming he doesn't leave for the NBA.[/quote]
Posted on 4/3/25 at 9:59 pm to Teague
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His efficiency will go down, not up, if he gets more minutes.
You dont have any way to know that. You dont know what his role will be, who the surrounding players will be, and you dont have any way to know what his development will be like this offseason.
Why are you so convinced he's topped out? He just had a great season and he outperformed most every expectation.
People used to say the most dumbass things about Herb Jones. He was never a prized pony. He just kept working getting better. No reason to believe any of these young kids cant do the same thing. Im not disappointed in any of the players from this years team.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:02 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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"If you think Mo is going to explode and be Herb 2.0, then great"
I don't really understand this sentiment to be honest. Herb was never really some statistical juggernaut, he just became very appreciated late in his career by people who understood basketball because of his uncanny ability to lock down anyone you put him on and still provide unbelievable defensive support to anything rotating around him. Offensively Herb developed some downhill driving by his senior year and could even at times run the offense effectively, albeit with a very high turnover ratio. All of that said, Herb was still not a super polished finisher at any point in his Alabama career. But he made huge plays in the moment.
What I think Herb and Mo both have very much in common is just great instincts and intangibles. From the standpoint of Mo's efficiency level going down with the more minutes he plays, that's logical considering per 40 minutes Mo averages 18 points and 15 rebs which borders on insane, while Herb's senior year per 40 was at 16.5 and 9.7 per which is also quite nice.
All of this said, I still think they are different players. Mo uses his body a lot more for offensive and defensive effectiveness and Herb was a master of using his length. The thing I liked the most about Herb is he didn't play defense to keep you from scoring, he played defense to take the ball away from you. There were countless games where he had opposing players so uncomfortable within 5 minutes of the game, they were just mentally removed from the entire game. I don't think Mo will ever have that attribute, but he has more of a smallish Draymond Green pesky, physical and frustrating style. He isn't a lockdown defender, but he can be trusted enough against multiple positions.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:30 am to SECSolomonGrundy
He’s watched basketball for 40 years bro
Posted on 4/4/25 at 6:40 am to GoodTalkRuss
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I don't think Mo will ever have that attribute, but he has more of a smallish Draymond Green pesky, physical and frustrating style. He isn't a lockdown defender, but he can be trusted enough against multiple positions.
I'm not sure what some of you think I said.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Aden Holloway is an awful defender. He's small, he's weak, he struggles to stay in front of the ball and he doesn't trust his reads.
Holloway will never be a good defender because of his size, but I will say the "staying in front of the ball" part I have started to conclude has a little to do with scheme (likely designed to increase pace of play). The effort is there, but, like almost all of our guards, he overplays his man and tries to get up into their jersey (but like you referenced, he's weak) making it easy to blow by him. And before the "drop coverage" crew comes in, the goal for any defense should never be to freely allow your man to blow by you because no defense can be fully successful all the time allowing a live ball-handler into the teeth of the defense. It becomes way too easy for them to break you down.
Certain players have the length and/or athleticism to guard effectively like that (Ellis, Bradley, Mo, Griffen, Burnett, Herb, and even Philon to name a few), but we can't continue to guard that way with guys like JQ, Shackelford, Sears, Holloway, etc. It's like throwing alley-oops to 5'9" guys with 20" verticals. They don't have the size nor skill set for that.
Again, probably a pace of play thing, but I feel like it's kind of unfair for us to recruit guards like that, put them in a position where they will never be successful defensively, and then openly complain about their defense.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:36 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:39 am to BigBird09
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Crimson Coverage@CrimsonCoverage
How did former Alabama MBB players perform elsewhere in 2024-2025?
Rylan Griffen (Kansas)
- 6.3 PPG / 2.1 RPG / 1.4 APG
- 37.2 FG% / 33.6 3P% / 67.5 FT%
Nick Pringle (South Carolina)
- 9.5 PPG / 6.3 RPG / 1.1 APG
- 57.2 FG% / 65.5 FT%
Nimari Burnett (Michigan)
- 9.4 PPG / 3.5 RPG / 1.5 APG
- 47.6 FG% / 40.0 3P% / 76.3 FT%
Sam Walters (Michigan)
- 5.0 PPG / 1.6 RPG / 0.6 APG
- 42.5 FG% / 36.6 3P% / 73.7 FT%
Kris Parker (Villanova)
- 2.8 PPG / 1.5 RPG / 0.5 APG
- 44.4 FG% / 20.8 3P% / 60.0 FT%
Davin Cosby Jr. (Wake Forest)
- 5.6 PPG / 1.4 REB / 0.9 APG
- 35.1 FG% / 31.3 3P% / 50.0 FT%
Juwan Gary (Nebraska)
- 14.2 PPG / 4.9 RPG / 0.9 APG
- 44.5 FG% / 31.6 3P% / 79.1 FT%
Delaney Heard (Kennesaw St)
- 1.8 PPG / 0.9 RPG / 0.8 APG
- 24.7 FG% / 18.6 3P% / 50.0 FT%
Mo Wague (Oklahoma)
- 3.9 PPG / 3.1 RPG / 0.7 APG
- 72.3 FG% / 65.4 FT%
Jaden Bradley (Arizona)
- 12.1 PPG / 3.4 RPG / 3.7 APG
- 46.7 FG% / 32.1 3P% / 82.7 FT%
Keon Ambrose-Hylton (SMU)
- 4.0 PPG / 2.5 RPG / 0.5 APG
- 56.4 FG% / 22.2 3P% / 65.6 FT%
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:57 am to BigBird09
Zakai Zeigler would disagree. Your point may be valid relative to Holloway, but size alone does not dictate defensive ability.
RTR
RTR
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:08 am to passthetylenol
Defense is mostly about effort. Zeigler, Trevor Releford and even Sundiata Gaines were good defenders who were all under 6’1. The difference is they enjoyed playing defense. Growing up I watched Lindsey Hunter be one of the better on ball defenders in the NBA and he was under 6’0. I think Holloway can be a good defender in the future.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 12:39 pm to BigFolks6347
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Let’s go!! Now this is a pickup I’m really excited about.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 12:45 pm to Bryant91092
quote:I love this one. A rim protecting 4 with a 3 point stroke will pair perfectly with Sherrell and Williamson. Frontcourt is looking good.
Let’s go!! Now this is a pickup I’m really excited about.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 12:50 pm to Bryant91092
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Let’s go!! Now this is a pickup I’m really excited about.
Hell yeah. Perfect 4 for Oats' system. Looks like he has 2 years of eligibility left too.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:01 pm to TideCPA
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Gut feeling as of now:
1: Holloway and one of Philon/Burries/Portal
2: Portal (Wooley/Bethea/Griffen), Mallette, Hannah
3: Reid or Stevenson (one stays, one goes), Allen
4. Mo D or Portal (Bol Bowen?), Jemison
5. Sherrell, Portal (Williamson?)
Given TBB's commitment, I have a hard time seeing Mo D coming back. Jemison has a very similar size and skillset and I see him playing a good bit in that big 3 / small 4 slot.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:03 pm to TideCPA
This makes me more worried about Derrion leaving than Mo.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:07 pm to RollTide33
quote:There definitely ain't enough room at the inn for all the 3/4s we got now (Reid, Stevenson, Dioubate, Jemison, Allen, Bol Bowen).
This makes me more worried about Derrion leaving than Mo.
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