re: Tide Hoops | Please Anchor

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Oats has basically said the same thing for at least a month now.

1. Limit turnovers
2. Would like to see the defense improve
3. See more effort and earn your playing time
4. Good day at practice, put the last game behind you

There is almost no point in paying attention to his press conferences at this point haha

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Another exhibit in the case against Oats just being basketball Gus. I hate so much that I completely agree with that comparison. It's really not a bad thing in a sport where you just need to get on a roll at the right time, but the year to year inconsistency is going to drive all of us fricking insane.

We will see. Hell, if he will just start taking the occasional timeout to try and stop a 7-0 run from becoming a 14-2 run I'd be happy. At least that would show that there's some self scouting going on. Again though, I struggle to put a ton of blame on him for a lot of this team's issues. He unexpectedly lost two good-great perimeter defenders he was likely counting on and made the understandable mistake of assuming our leadership situation wouldn't be a disaster considering we have 3 upperclassmen in our starting lineup.

Alabama Torvik Rankings over the last:

3 months (since 12/7)
> 12-11 (9-9)
> Overall : #43 (#6 SEC)
> Offense : #13 (#2 SEC)
> Defense : #145 (#13 SEC)
> Turnover Rate : #294 (#10 SEC)


2 months (since 1/7)
> 8-9 (7-9)
> Overall : #46 (#6 SEC)
> Offense : #12 (#2 SEC)
> Defense : #149 (#12 SEC)
> Turnover Rate : #311 (#9 SEC)


6 weeks (since 1/24)
> 6-6 (5-6)
> Overall : #33 (#5 SEC)
> Offense : #13 (#2 SEC)
> Defense : #107 (#9 SEC)
> Turnover Rate : #340 (#14 SEC)


3 weeks (since 2/14)
> 3-3 (3-3)
> Overall : #41 (#7 SEC)
> Offense : #11 (#2 SEC)
> Defense : #162 (#11 SEC)
> Turnover Rate : #341 (#14 SEC)


10 days (since 2/25)
> 1-2 (1-2)
> Overall : #57 (#7 SEC)
> Offense : #27 (#4 SEC)
> Defense : #173 (#10 SEC)
> Turnover Rate : #351 (#14 SEC)


For all the talk of being inconsistent game to game, we're pretty consistent overall.

Out of 317 hi-major players who have played 60% of available minutes, JD Davison has the highest turnover rate in the country

1. JD Davison (Alabama) (29.2%)
2. Andre Jackson (UConn) (27.9%)
3. Damion Baugh (TCU) (27.4%)
4. Eric Gaines (LSU) (27.0%)
5. Jarron Coleman (Missouri) (26.0%)

45. Jahvon Quinerly (Alabama) (21.0%)
142. Keon Ellis (Alabama) (16.2%)
198. Jaden Shackelford (14.7%)



Other freshmen guards (out of 26)

1. JD Davison (Bama) (29.2%)
2. Jacobi Wright (S. Carolina) (27.4%)
3. Meechie Johnson Jr (Ohio State) (25.0%)
3. Tyler Kolek (Marquette) (25.0%)
5. KJ Simpson (Colorado) (24.6%)

12. Christian Wright (Georgia) (23.5%)
15. Devin Carter (S. Carolina) (21.2%)
18. Wade Taylor IV (Texas A&M) (20.6%)
19. Kennedy Chandler (Tennessee) (19.7%)
20. Zakai Zeigler (Tennessee) (19.2%)
24. TyTy Washington (Kentucky) (14.8%)

Some of the leadership issue is just bad luck to not have that one guy in the mix.

I completely believe JQ, Shack and Ellis are great kids. Going to games you can tell by how they handle themselves. JQ just seems to be a very happy-go-lucky laid back guy and Ellis is obviously a bit introverted. Shack 's a real laid back guy too. If he'd returned. Primo seemed pretty quiet as well.

Some of that is just bad luck to not have a real strong upperclass vocal leader in the mix but no reason to berate these guys. If anything it's on recruiting to bring that type guy in if you know the players personalities you're dealing with.


That said, the disappointment with JQ et al has been that he hasn't always led by example on the defensive end in the sense of stepping in to take a charge instead of giving a matador hand wave.

Last year, we had Petty asking to be put on the best scorer in crunch time and Herb diving around like a mad man with a cast on his arm.

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Im really not buying the oats being luke Gus bullshitee. Does he need to adjust some things? Yes. Gus didnt recruit his sport like oats has his, this is the best coach we ve had since wimp and it really isnt a debate.

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I was more specifically referring to his general coaching, very specific system, etc.

In tons of ways Oats > Gus - recruiting being one, but also the fact that basketball is a sport where having a very specific system and not having a bunch of adjustments isn't all that bad, especially compared to football.

And Gus had really damn good teams when he had the right guys in place to run his system. He never adjusted and more head scratchingly never seemed to recruit the types of guys (specifically QBs) that fit his system.

Also, when it comes to defense, there is one big issue that we don't talk about a ton (partly because it is a symptom of the stuff we do talk about) - we barely cause ANY turnovers. A lot of that is because physically we can't force anybody to do anything, especially opposing guards. But if you can't turn people over, it's gonna be REALLY hard to be an above average defense.





This is 2021, FYI

Forced Turnover Rate / Turnover Rate




Bottom Left - Don't force many turnovers, turn the ball over a lot


Being in the same quadrant with Missouri and Georgia is not good for any aspect of college basketball

If I'm not mistaken, we had to burn 2 timeouts Saturday because we couldn't get the ball inbounds. JD always inbounds when he's in the game. Most of the time he struggles to find an open man. Calling timeouts in that situation is as good as a turnover to me.