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Posted on 12/20/21 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 4:44 pm to
I may be in the minority, but I don't think we have been taking enough 3's this year.

We have been passing up a lot of open looks early in the shot clock in lieu of trying to work the iso drives and pick-and-roll with JQ/JD on the ball and Bediako/Gurley off the ball.

I know Oats likes to use a green-light, yellow-light, red-light with players on the floor about when they are allowed to take 3s, but I have seen JQ/JD/Miles/Ellis pass-up too many open 3s to drive in the last 2 games. Ellis/Miles/JQ are too good of shooters to pass on an uncontested 3. Even if its 5 seconds into the shot clock and we haven't had a paint touch.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26699 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Last season, when shite was headed south and shots weren’t falling, they played amazing team defense to stay energized and hold on until the game came back to them.


I'm slowly realizing that I did not appreciate Herb Jones enough last year. I mean I loved the guy and knew he was good, but his impact was greater than I realized.
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

m slowly realizing that I did not appreciate Herb Jones enough last year. I mean I loved the guy and knew he was good, but his impact was greater than I realized.


You and everyone in the NBA. He is averaging 27 minutes per game and has started 19/31 games as a rookie 2nd rounder. That's not very common.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7053 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:36 pm to
Seton Hall had to forfeit a game today due to covid. It counts in their conference standings (they are 0-1) but not in their overall record? is that correct?

Posted by CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
1524 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:01 pm to
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I know Oats likes to use a green-light, yellow-light, red-light with players on the floor about when they are allowed to take 3s, but I have seen JQ/JD/Miles/Ellis pass-up too many open 3s to drive in the last 2 games. Ellis/Miles/JQ are too good of shooters to pass on an uncontested 3. Even if its 5 seconds into the shot clock and we haven't had a paint touch.


I absolutely agree. We’ve passed on good shots more frequently and noticeably than I can remember in the past three seasons. We’re averaging ~29 3PA per game on the season, which is basically what Oats wants, and that’s only down ~1.5 attempts per game from last season, but if we’re going to play fast with four out, we’re going to have to take the open looks we get from it.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:09 pm to
Primo playing on ESPN2 right now
He is so smooth and talented.
Surprised he's not on the Spurs roster.
Posted by CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
1524 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:17 pm to
ETA: When we pass on those open looks, especially early in the clock, we’re essentially giving away any advantage we had by playing our style. We get stuck in an undersized half court offense against a defense that has time to reset and things can get a little predictable. We take more contested shots at the rim or force kick outs into tighter passing lanes. Defenders are in better position to rebound and we get less second chances opportunities. The game slows down and gets us out of rhythm.

Basically, we do everything we can to get those looks and it affects our entire philosophy negatively when we don’t take them, even if it’s a miss.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20074 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 9:07 pm to
Spurs are tanking this season for high nba pick.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9318 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:29 am to
Bama -10 tonight. I think we cover.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7053 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:15 am to
pretty interesting games tonight.

one top 25 matchup > #18 Xavier @ #23 Villanova, 6pm

and 2 top 11 teams on the road in decent matchups >
#11 Mich St @ Oakland
#7 Kansas @ Colorado

others of interest:
Jax St @ Little Rock
Samford @ Ole Miss
Delaware @ Iona
ISU @ S Alabama

16 games cancelled/postponed

Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Spurs are tanking this season for high nba pick.


They've won 4 of their last 7.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:03 am to
Tanking in the NBA doesn’t mean the players are actively trying to lose the game. All of these teams have talent, and are capable of winning any game. The spurs have an absolute 0% chance of winning any postseason series and would benefit heavily with a lottery pick. They’re tanking regardless of their piddly win streak against the covid list backups.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Tanking in the NBA doesn’t mean the players are actively trying to lose the game. All of these teams have talent, and are capable of winning any game. The spurs have an absolute 0% chance of winning any postseason series and would benefit heavily with a lottery pick. They’re tanking regardless of their piddly win streak against the covid list backups


whatever
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:22 am to
I’m not trying to personally hate on your team. I’m an OKC fan and we’ve picked up some nice wins(including the Spurs lmao) but I’m not delusional to the fact we’re tanking. Y’all are 12-18 and lost to the kings 2 games ago.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30373 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Bama -10 tonight. I think we cover.


I wouldn’t touch that number. I expect about 10 to be the MOV tonight.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I’m not trying to personally hate on your team.


I'm just saying the tanking doesn't really matter. I don't like the Spurs or really the NBA anymore. I was always a Lakers fan but all the political stuff has ruined it.

I just think Primo should be in the league.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:58 am to
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Something I found interesting: Alabama’s pace of play and 3-point attempts have trended downward.

KenPom tempo (poss/40min):
2019-20: 74.8 (4th)
2020-21: 73.3 (11th)
2021-22: 72.3 (31st)

3PA/game:
19-20: 30.9 (2nd)
20-21: 30.0 (4th)
21-22: 28.8 (19th)
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Friendly reminder that Josh Primo is younger than Chet Holmgren, Paolo Banchero, and Jaden Ivey. Spurs received a lot of criticism for “reaching” at 12. Would’ve gone higher in 2022.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 11:00 am to
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Alabama’s schedule after tonight (NET rankings):

vs. Tennessee (No. 9)
at Florida (No. 59)
at Missouri (No. 240 … !)
vs. Auburn (No. 10)
at Miss. State (No. 47)
vs. LSU (No. 3)
vs. Missouri (No. 240 … !)
at Georgia (No. 201 … !)
vs. Baylor (No. 2)
at Auburn (No. 10)
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