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Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Ill preface this by saying, I watched about half the Duke/Gonzaga game and that's all I've seen of them. But, other than Holmgren, Gonzaga doesn't scare me talent-wise. I think we can match up with them on that. But, they're obviously very well coached and execute. We're going to need to get hot and stay hot. And, more importantly, stay out of foul trouble.


Biggest concern is Chuck and/or Gurley get in foul trouble early. I think if we can stay out of foul trouble inside we can make it a game in the 2H. And have to keep the hot shooting from outside going.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:06 pm to
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The front runner for POY doesn’t scare you?


I said I watched about a half a game. I have no idea who that is, but whoever it is didn't jump out in the time I watched. AND, as I said, I'm talking strictly about talent, not what any of the players have accomplished in the system. Like, I said, we'll have to get hot to have a chance.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:22 pm to
Considering it's Gonzaga and our first real road game of the year, I feel we will struggle. I know their home gym is in Spokane but it is in Seattle. We will have to shoot like we did in the Miami 2nd half to win. You can expect a lot of foul trouble from our bigs. We will really have to work on handling lane cuts this week. Bediako will have to stay under control and try to not get into a pissing match with Holmgren. We don't need him to foul out.

It will help us in the long run to play the game though. Need the challenge and experience.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8555 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
They all scare me. There’s very, very few teams in the country that have a legitimate shot to beat us by 20 points, and this is one of them. That said, it will be a great test of our defense and benefit us come tourney time. These next 3 games over a short time period will feel like an NCAA tournament stretch of games, and should benefit us in March. We need to win at least 1 and hopefully 2. If we can get our fundamentals on both sides of the ball ironed out in the next 3 weeks, we should have a legit shot of winning the SEC again. Then it will come down to what team has the fundamentals and talent, but also gets hot the last two weeks of March. That’s anybody’s guess at this point, but we need to keep improving to be one of the teams to have that shot to get hot at the right time.
The Braves didn’t play well against the Dodgers in the regular season, but we all know what happened in October! We don’t need to win this game, but we need to compete and learn from it (but I’ll take the win if we pull it off!!).
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:28 pm to
Chet strikes me as a guy who can have games where he just kind of is in the background - at least in terms of scoring and touching the ball. However, every game he plays in he is a major factor on the offensive glass and in terms of blocking shots. If we aren't able to get out in transition we are going to struggle to run our offense, because we won't have any available shots at the rim with him in the game (not to mention Timme). I have to imagine that our plan for that one is going to be to run, run, run, run and run some more, even if it's a little out of control. Once things settle into the half court, it's gonna be really hard for us to get good flow with a no fly zone inside 6 feet.

It's a really tough ask. Much like the football game, we're going to have to play a high level, complete and mistake free game to have a shot to win.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:50 pm to
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I have to imagine that our plan for that one is going to be to run, run, run, run and run some more


It's definitely going to be tough because it's exactly what Gonzaga wants to do too. They have a very effective half court offense but would prefer to run and are very good at it.

We average 76 possessions per game and they average 74.2.
We average 84 points/game and they average 90.

Even with Holmgren, they will still run. He's not the typical center.

I actually wish we had one game this week prior to the game Saturday. Would like us to stay sharp coming off our great second half against Miami.
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3980 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:53 pm to
The more I watched Gonzaga the more I was praying we get hot from 3. I wanna see us come out like last year @LSU where we won 105-75 with a record # of 3s.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:44 pm to
I want to see that JD/JQ/Shack/Keon/Miles lineup more. Really opens up driving lanes and makes us explosive in transition. Can’t run it too often for obvious reasons, but when we’re needing a spark that lineup is instant offense.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30004 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:47 pm to
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I want to see that JD/JQ/Shack/Keon/Miles lineup more


So we just gonna concede 2 points every possession?
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3980 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:35 pm to
I just want to see us moving the ball, driving and kicking, for some good looks.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:37 pm to
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It's definitely going to be tough because it's exactly what Gonzaga wants to do too. They have a very effective half court offense but would prefer to run and are very good at it.

We average 76 possessions per game and they average 74.2.
We average 84 points/game and they average 90.

Even with Holmgren, they will still run. He's not the typical center.

I actually wish we had one game this week prior to the game Saturday. Would like us to stay sharp coming off our great second half against Miami.


Yea, there is no ideal situation against them due to their talent and roster. I think we'd much rather do what we do at our best and do it against a defense that isn't set up with an athletic 7 footer eraser than slowing it down.

They're good going fast or average. We're pretty much at our best going fast, and in terms of matchups I think it definitely serves us best.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:17 pm to
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So we just gonna concede 2 points every possession?
I guess when I said obvious reason I should’ve clarified for the slower members on the board. I’m not vying for that lineup to see heavy minutes, but I’d love to see it in spurts off the bench. I think JD plays best in space with bigs drawn to the perimeter.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:56 pm to
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I should’ve clarified for the slower members on the board


Someone claiming Bama should be favored over everyone on their schedule really doesn’t have the cachet to call other board members slow.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 6:56 pm to
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I should’ve clarified for the slower members on the board


Someone claiming Bama should be favored over everyone on their schedule really doesn’t have the cachet to call other board members slow.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15925 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:07 pm to
Alabama WBB Hosts Memphis inside Coleman Coliseum Tuesday at 6 p.m. CT

The contest will be broadcast on SEC Network Plus, with Roger Hoover and Richard Hendrix on the call
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:22 pm to
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Someone claiming Bama should be favored over everyone on their schedule really doesn’t have the cachet to call other board members slow.
I said I would personally bet on us against any team in the country. Not because I guarantee we’ll win but we’ll be huge underdogs against the Gonzaga’s of world and I like the value of the ML we’ll have. You’re having to make things up to defend the guy who criticized Oats for picking Bediako over Langston Wilson.
Posted by ss4bama12
Nashville
Member since Mar 2020
472 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:16 pm to
Gonzaga with a 28-27 lead over Tarleton St early 2nd half. Only led by 1 at the half.
Posted by ss4bama12
Nashville
Member since Mar 2020
472 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:40 pm to
49-47 Zags under 6 minutes to go.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9224 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:55 pm to
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49-47 Zags under 6 minutes to go.


Zags end up winning 64-55.

At least they're susceptible to a game like we've been: 16 TO, 4/19 of 3pt shots and 14/24 from the FT line.


What worries me most about them was how they played Texas. 100% committed to playing through Timme every single possession until they got a comfortable lead.

As annoying as his antics can be, the guy is a true throwback post player with near perfect footwork in the paint. Texas had no shortage of athletes but none could defend him in the post. Either he scored or was fouled almost every touch. Seemed like when the Dad comes in and schools all the young skywalkers at the REC center with his Kevin McHale post moves.
Zags went to him probably 18 of their first 20 possessions and forced Texas to start doubling which just opened the floodgates.

I could be totally wrong -- I didn't see a second of the Tarleton St game, but I'd guess Tarleton packed the paint like sardines and dared Gonzaga to shoot 3s and got a bit lucky they were ice cold and Zags turned it over a lot trying to force the ball inside/drive anyway. Much like we've been prone to do.

I'd be shocked if Oats changed everything we do to play the Zags that way.

Like many of you have said, we'll rise or fall on how well a rotation of Bediako, Gary, Gurley ect can slow Timme down and hit a decent % of threes on the other end to outscore them.



This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:01 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:49 am to
Dang, we missed Gonzaga s worst game by just a few days
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