re: Tide Football Thread in honor of TidalSurge

He has the ability to make catches from not so perfect throws.

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Daniels is the only realistic comparison. Burrow wasn’t amazing but he was handcuffed by an outdated offense and a beyond stubborn head coach. Once he was put in an offense that let him sling it, he showed what he was truly capable of. It’s not the same situation as Milroe and Daniels.

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explain to me how daniels is a better comparison than burrow? daniels had started 2 full seasons and 4 games of a shortened season before he set foot at LSU. he had thrown 723 passes and like 6000 yards prior to getting to LSU. Burrow was a backup for 2 years, got his first real action as a starter at LSU in 2018, they changed offensive staff for 2019 and he blew up. does that sound familiar? fact of the matter is milroe being behind in the easy stuff is an indictment of the offensive coaching staff the last 3 years. BoB famously neglected his development (and bryce's for that matter, bryce was the same player he was leaving as when he got here, and he carried BoB's arse play calling), and Rees was like 5th choice and not up to the job. And yet Milroe had what is objectively a very successful first season starting, its just not even debatable he did a good job as a first year starter, if you can take off the lens of having just had 3 all time great qbs in a row back to back. thats just not a normal thing to happen, and certainly not at bama prior to tua. burrow probably got better coaching at ohio state as a backup, but milroe was objectively better in 2023 that burrow was in 2018, and there is no reason besides being a debbie downer to think he cant make great progress year over year, especially with the help of a coaching staff that produces great qb play and a system that is helping instead of working against it > what Milroe needs to get bettter at is stuff he should have been getting coached up on since he got there, and it is stuff that is easily coachable. what hes just naturally good at is stuff you cant coach. hes like hurts in that the moments are not to big and he has a major clutch gene, plus hes got freakish athletic qualities, a great arm, lots of stuff so many qbs around college just dont have and never will. he just needs some polishing, and deboer and co are certainly capable of doing that.

incidentally, milroe also had a better year than Daniels had at LSU in 2022 or any year had starting prior to last season, despite daniels having so much experience

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The combination of scheme and head coaching change was more drastic for Joe. Milroe had a better year last year than Joe had in 2018 but Joe was asked to do way less than Milroe

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how do you know what they asked joe burrow to do in 2018? maybe they were limited in scheme based on what he could do at that point? maybe the offense would have looked different that year if he wasnt green. thats what people are trying to say about Milroe

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nobody would even remember the snaps.

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Nobody should ever remember snaps, they should be automatic at an elite P4 school.

It’s like AC, if you notice it there’s something wrong.

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better QB play

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Developmental QBs need the team around them to help them as they learn how to process their reads and execute the offense. When the snap is in effect a fumble or requires the QB to reacquire their hold on the ball they aren’t reading the defense, checking down or in rhythm with their footwork. It’s like throwing someone a pass in basketball at their ankles, it throws off your shot.

I’m certainly not arguing Milroe is a finished product, he’s far from it. But if he’s worried about the snap or his protection (he needs to learn to shift his protection), we are making a difficult situation far worse than it needs to be.

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We still got the same ones this year except for Jase...so I guess they aren't good?

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Haynes was an injured TF last year, you’d have to ask Rees why Miller wasn’t starting over Jase and Roydell.

Even dinged up when Haynes got carries against Michigan our running game became instantly explosive, so yes, assuming he’s healthy we will be vastly improved with Justice, Jam and Richard Young carrying the ball.

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You might be one of the dumbest posters on here.

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You’re taking this pretty personally, are you Seth McLaughlins dad?

If so sorry about the things I yelled about your son last year, hope he figures it out in Columbus. Kind of.

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Burrow got better for two reasons

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Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase.

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Texas knew he had major flaws in his game and they exploited it.

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They knew this from two whole games of film? Wow, great staff they've got over there at Texas.