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re: Saban comment in presser about the 1 sec
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:50 am to cmayes56
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:50 am to cmayes56
A fix to that debacle of a call is that the teams should not be able to substitute during a review (or at least in a different manner than the way they can in other situations).
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:54 am to bamarep
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The problem I have is they were allowed to change personnel on an official timeout. That DIRECTLY impacts the outcome of the game. No matter which way the play review goes, you shouldn't be allowed to change personnel during an official timeout.
Back on topic, this thread was devolving into other stuff.
I thought the reasoning the on TV official explained about technology was very weak. He knows this is bullshite and just tried to spin it in some way to make the referees on the field look competent.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:55 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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This is a billion dollar industry
I have said it before and I will say it again, its time for the league to professionalize officiating.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:16 am to East Coast Band
You can blame our center for that.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:12 am to Glorious
Yeah it's what we get every time we go to the plains. Something fishy always happens. It seems like it always goes their way. One handed catches,balls bounces crazy ways,bogus facemask calls,interceptions off backs for pick sixes. I really think this is God's funny way of trying to making up for all the domination we've had over the whole sec. It's seems to beat us they have to play perfect. And we have to play awful. Plus crazy things have to happen to push them over the top.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:14 am to cmayes56
Good lord. I bet Saban has also fallen for one of those Nigerian scams.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:38 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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The side judge was telling the truth. They shouldn’t have gotten it off. It was an abortion of a call. Nobody should “blame” that call as the loss, but it was an absolute incompetent and egregious error. There would be riots if that call went in our favor. It’s shameful that this conference employs officials that don’t fully grasp the rules.
What rule was not enforced properly? The rules allow for a second to be put back on, and the restart was done by the book.
The issue is the rule. Hopefully, this will spark a rule change. The rules need to be amended so that this can't happen. There was a big difference between last night and 2013. In 2013, the ball was out of bounds so that the clock didn't start until the snap. There needs to be language in the rule along the lines of requiring that if the clock starts on the ready for play signal, there have to be at least two seconds on the clock. After the chains were set and the clock started, Auburn never would have been able to either have their FG unit in place or spike the ball with time left on the clock.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:44 am to Rocco Lampone
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A fix to that debacle of a call is that the teams should not be able to substitute during a review
This,
And require that there be at least 2 seconds.
Really, if you think about it, one second should NEVER be put back on the clock on review. Think about all the times the clock is stopped during a 60 minute game. The player first steps out of bounds. Then the official blows his whistle and signals to stop the clock. Then the clock operator hits the switch. Those three events don't happen simultaneously. There may literally be 50-100 times during a football game that an extra 0.5-1.0 seconds tick off the clock. Are they all reviewed? Of course not.
The rule allowing for only one second to be put back on the clock is mindbogglingly stupid. If two seconds run off, then you can clearly see there was a mistake or that the clock operator was just slow. Not so with only one second. An entire minute could be lost over the course of a 60 minute game.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 11:46 am
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:40 pm to BamaGradinTn
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and the restart was done by the book.
False, the ref should have been standing over the ball.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 1:00 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The issue is the rule. Hopefully, this will spark a rule change. The rules need to be amended so that this can't happen. There was a big difference between last night and 2013. In 2013, the ball was out of bounds so that the clock didn't start until the snap. There needs to be language in the rule along the lines of requiring that if the clock starts on the ready for play signal, there have to be at least two seconds on the clock. After the chains were set and the clock started, Auburn never would have been able to either have their FG unit in place or spike the ball with time left on the clock.
The simplest fix is to require the 11 players who were on the field for the play being reviewed to be on the field when the ball is whistled back into play. That was the issue. Auburn got a free timeout to substitute their kicking team onto the field, which never would have been possible without the review.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 1:03 pm to JackieTreehorn
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. I bet Saban has also fallen for one of those Nigerian scams.
This and the "trickery" at the end of the game.
No coach in the history of college football would have gone for it on fourth and four on your on 26 in that situation.
And our dumbasses fell for it
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:15 pm to 3down10
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and the restart was done by the book.
False, the ref should have been standing over the ball.
Says who?
The official ONLY stands over the ball if the offense substitutes in order to give the defense a chance to substitute. The official does NOT stand over the ball after every official's time out. There's no reason to. The ball is allowed to be snapped on the whistle.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:17 pm to East Coast Band
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Back on topic, this thread was devolving into other stuff.
I thought the reasoning the on TV official explained about technology was very weak. He knows this is bullshite and just tried to spin it in some way to make the referees on the field look competent.
That reasoning was total bullshite. Apparently technology finally hit Alabama last night after decades of reviews.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:20 pm to 3down10
Saban said, according to the rule, there is supposed to be 3 seconds on the clock on a live ball.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
The ref should have made his statement about the clock and IMMEDIATELY whistled the clock to start.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:22 pm to East Coast Band
Also how do you determine there was actually one second left from the video I saw? You couldn't tell where the ball or the ball carrier was.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:24 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Says who?
The official ONLY stands over the ball if the offense substitutes in order to give the defense a chance to substitute. The official does NOT stand over the ball after every official's time out. There's no reason to. The ball is allowed to be snapped on the whistle.
Says every game I've watched until last night over the past near 40 years.
The only way to get the play off in 1 second is if the clock starts when the ball is snapped. Which is only the case after a timeout.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:24 pm to 3down10
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Back on topic, this thread was devolving into other stuff.
I thought the reasoning the on TV official explained about technology was very weak. He knows this is bullshite and just tried to spin it in some way to make the referees on the field look competent.
That reasoning was total bullshite. Apparently technology finally hit Alabama last night after decades of reviews.
Exactly.
Time should never be put back on the clock unless there was a clear error or if the clock operator was clearly slow in stopping the clock...2 or more seconds at least. The combined reaction time of two different officials will always ensure that the clock is ALWAYS at least 0.5 seconds late getting stopped.
Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:26 pm to 3down10
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Says every game I've watched until last night over the past near 40 years.
This is comical. Posted on 12/1/19 at 2:45 pm to BamaGradinTn
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This is comical.
Right, Saban and all the coaches who commented on it during halftime as being terrible are wrong.
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