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re: Ryan Grubb is back at Alabama

Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:00 pm to
I think Ellis is the odd man. Sheridan goes back to TE

Roach don't seem like he's moving on.

I think this is safe to say this is the staff going into the spring at this point.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:08 pm to
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His reasons don't matter to me, because they're speculative. But the facts do and the facts are, Saban has publicly said he tried to hire Grubb MULTIPLE times while he was at Alabama and was turned down every time. When CKD got the Bama job Grubb he wasn't here a week and bolted for the Seattle job.


So the guy didn't want to go to a job of the same level in college and wanted to make it in the NFL.

Does that mean ignorant pieces of shite should attack his wife and single her out?

Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15215 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:10 pm to
Huff time?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:11 pm to
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IIRC, someone found Grubb's wife's doctoral dissertation, that was entitled "Is Teacher Implicit Bias Associated With The Discipline Disparity Between Black And White High School Students?" and they just assumed she was the de facto BLM leader.

Here is a link to her dissertation.

LINK


Exactly.

It's pretty disgusting and warped that they go after a man's wife like that but he's here now so all good with attacking his family.

Dumb and ignorant
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Huff time?


Huff might end up back at Washington, their OL coach(and Pete Carroll's son) was just hired by the Raiders.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
566 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:11 pm to
I don't know anything about that. That is why I said the reasons do not matter only the facts and the facts are he's been presented opportunities to work for Bama (we know AT LEAST three times) and has turned them down. The why's aren't my problem nor worry. I'm sure his employment dealings with Alabama (while Saban was here and under Deboer) will be asked by reporters in his press conference. So I'll wait and hear from him...
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9036 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:31 pm to
I will say that there are reasons Grubb wouldn't come here under Saban that have nothing to do with Big Woke conspiring against us. Saban struggled with hiring top coaching talent because the candidates wanted assurances that he wasn't going to retire within a year or two of them taking the job. However, he was not willing to think that far ahead. I think Saban all but plainly said in some interviews since retiring that it had become a year to year appraisal at some point in the last few years of his tenure.

Grubb didn't come one time likely due to the concern of Saban retiring shortly after he gets there and having to scramble to find employment.

Grubb never joined DeBoer's year 1 staff because an NFL opportunity emerged.

Grubb did join after getting terminated from the Seahawks.


Nothing nefarious...just a man making career decisions.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4102 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Grubb didn't come one time likely due to the concern of Saban retiring shortly after he gets there and having to scramble to find employment.

Grubb never joined DeBoer's year 1 staff because an NFL opportunity emerged.

Grubb did join after getting terminated from the Seahawks.


There was one thing in the first two that aren't in the third. Milroe
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
15329 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:44 pm to
There doesn't have to be an odd man out, I don't think.

NCAA ends limits to on-field coaching staff
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4689 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:45 pm to
Yeah I know. I was just thinking Sheridan takes over TE and Ellis moved somewhere.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9036 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:50 pm to
Yeah, I imagine that this is the first year schools are actually using the opportunity because the NCAA voted to approve unlimited on-field coaches in June 2024. Too late for it to matter for Fall 2024.

Alabama is probably about to throw a lot of cash on the on-field staff. More like the NFL where they have full-time asst. position coaches too. Huff may come back and coach just offensive tackles or guards, Kapilovic vice versa. Ellis may just become an Asst. TE coach or shadow someone else.

How much you can afford to spend on the coaching staff is going to be the limit now. I imagine that NCAA rule being on the horizon is partly why DeBoer axed the fleet of analysts on full-time staff or contractor employment. You're just going to spend that money on dedicated position coaches at every position, perhaps assistants at some or all, etc.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
15329 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 1:55 pm to
Sheridan could stay with QBs and Grubb just becomes OC. I'm sure he'd work with QBs also, but we could be shifting toward more of an NFL model with assistant coaches.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
9036 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:02 pm to
Huff is a good college OLC, so he may find other work but I kinda expect for us to be rocking two OL coaches next year. These guys have enough experience it won't be primary and assistant, probably more like OT and IOL. The NFL model is broadly what I suspect too.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 2:03 pm
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
566 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 2:32 pm to
I agree, no doubt when Saban first started reaching out to him, he (Saban) may have already been in that tenure of his career where retirement was possible. So I get that if that were the case.

But on the other side of that argument, working for Saban (if only for one year) has shown to pay out enormous dividends for people who would never get that type of return on anyone else's staff for the same amount of time. So if it were "only" for one year and seeing the offensive talent we had during the time he was pursuing Grubb, all he would have needed was one good year and he could be in a much different employment situation than prior. I think Saban was pursuing him when we had Bryce Young. Could you imagine Young having Grubb as OC rather than Bill O'Brien? Geeze, what could have been.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Huff is a good college OLC, so he may find other work but I kinda expect for us to be rocking two OL coaches next year. These guys have enough experience it won't be primary and assistant, probably more like OT and IOL. The NFL model is broadly what I suspect too


Can’t have but so many coaches. I don’t know if NFL is limited but college still is. Don’t think you’ll see 2 OL coaches. We have 11 now. Someone is not staying or they’re moving to analyst role.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1625 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:30 pm to
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Can’t have but so many coaches. I don’t know if NFL is limited but college still is. Don’t think you’ll see 2 OL coaches. We have 11 now. Someone is not staying or they’re moving to analyst


That used to be the case, but it has changed. There is no limit on how many assistant football coaches you can have in college now. The NCAA removed the limits in June 2024. Analysts can also serve in an on the field coaching capacity as a result of this change.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 4:16 pm to
Are we looking at another rebuilding/ restructuring year next season? The QB position looks questionable and now the guys get Grubb we know his history with CKD but he is a new coach for the players. We’re really putting a lot on the line hopeful that Simpson is an ultra good game manager. But, we don’t have any running game, maybe something changed in the off season but I don’t see any back like we are used to having. The future is obviously the stud QB we pulled but his time surely is 26. Are we stuck in the mud or do we have a legitimate chance to be better and not just because Milroe is gone?
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1068 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 4:42 pm to
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Are we stuck in the mud or do we have a legitimate chance to be better and not just because Milroe is gone?


The notable departures on offense are:
- Jalen Milroe
- Justice Haynes
- Kendrick Law
- Robbie Ouzts
- CJ Dippre
- Elijah Pritchett
- Tyler Booker

We're returning three or four starters on the offensive line, one co-starter at running back (Jam Miller), and two wideouts (Ryan Williams and Germie Bernard).

I believe QB play will be better overall regardless of who starts. Having 60% (or 80%, depending on how you look at it) of the offensive line back is huge, specifically Brailsford at center. Wideouts likely will be improved with Williams and Bernard having another year in the system and the addition of transfer Isaiah Horton from Miami.

I think Grubb joining as OC is the best possible outcome from a coaching perspective. It's DeBoer's offense, but Grubb understands it inside and out and from many reports is better than Sheridan at scheming plays. And, honestly, Sheridan wasn't bad by any stretch in 2024 -- multiple people have talked about the open receivers that Jalen just didn't see almost every game.

I expect turnovers to go down compared to 2024. We may not be as explosive overall, but I think we'll be considerably more efficient.
Posted by Hawaiian Punch
Member since Jan 2018
709 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 4:55 pm to
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Are we stuck in the mud or do we have a legitimate chance to be better and not just because Milroe is gone?


No, no chance whatsoever…

Yes there’s a legitimate chance and yes it’s in large part because Milroe is gone. However, the OL needs to improve run blocking significantly. Hard to judge their pass protection this past year because Milroe had zero awareness and pocket presence, but RT was a revolving door at times.

If the defense can build on a strong finish to last year, we could be very dangerous if QB play and game management improves. A stronger run game is also critical, but I think we have the horses in the RB room to get it done. The backs were so misused in so many ways last year.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 5:13 pm to
Thanks. I hope we pull it all together. I’m not as dialed in to everything like I used to be about the team. I’m happy things are more optimistic than I imagined.
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