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Quick Overview - Alabama 2021 Returning Production
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:47 am
This isn't a perfect metric but I think it helps give an idea (and is better than "returning starters"). I am working under the following assumptions
- Christian Barmore leaves
- Brian Robinson leaves
- Deonte Brown leaves
- Patrick Surtain leaves
- Jaylen Waddle leaves
- Dylan Moses leaves
- Josh McMillon hangs them up
- Josh Jobe returns
- Chris Allen returns
- Phi Mathis retuns
Jobe seems like the most up in the air one there, and if he left it would skew things a bit - especially coverage snaps.
Takeaways
- we are starting over at offensive skill positions
- we lose good players but are not completely starting over at OL
- we return a LOT on defense
- Christian Barmore leaves
- Brian Robinson leaves
- Deonte Brown leaves
- Patrick Surtain leaves
- Jaylen Waddle leaves
- Dylan Moses leaves
- Josh McMillon hangs them up
- Josh Jobe returns
- Chris Allen returns
- Phi Mathis retuns
Jobe seems like the most up in the air one there, and if he left it would skew things a bit - especially coverage snaps.
Takeaways
- we are starting over at offensive skill positions
- we lose good players but are not completely starting over at OL
- we return a LOT on defense
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 10:10 am
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:52 am to SummerOfGeorge
This has got to be some of the most we have returned on defense in a long time if ever under NS.
First time in a while though that I think... do we have that alpha at WR
First time in a while though that I think... do we have that alpha at WR
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:54 am to UltimaParadox
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First time in a while though that I think... do we have that alpha at WR
Yea, this is definitely a 2015 level re-start at WR. Except instead of 1 great incoming WR option (Calvin), we have about 4. And, I think our talent on campus right now is better than it was then.
I'm excited about this team. The holes we have to fill have guys in the wings who are uber talented, and there are a lot of guys on defense who look like they are ready to take a big step next year.
Should be a really fun team to watch mature through the season.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm excited about this team.
Me too. I think the offensive potential is being underestimated by a lot of people.
It's going to come down to how well Young develops in the off season and the new OC. Every other position on offense will be just fine.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
Bryce gets the keys to the offense with a full offseason, and I don't see any way none of the 4 WRs we signed hit the ground running. We have an embarrassment of riches at RB regardless of what BRob does. I think the offense will be fine. It'll just take a few games to sort out the depth chart, unlike this year where it was etched in stone from day 1.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:04 am to JustGetItRight
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Me too. I think the offensive potential is being underestimated by a lot of people.
It's going to come down to how well Young develops in the off season and the new OC. Every other position on offense will be just fine.
We'll definitely be a different group, and there will be a whole lot more ugly drives than we've seen in a while, but watching all the young talent will be fun.
And quite frankly our defense should be a frickin force (as much as a defense can be in 2021).
Add in all the 1st and 2nd year blue chippers who will start trickling into some PT and it has the makeup of a fun "season after".
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
What is the adjusted if BRob comes back?
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:07 am to Carlton
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What is the adjusted with BRob coming back?
Rushing returning goes from 17% to 37%
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
This looks to be the biggest offensive rebuild of the Saban era.
Bama usually returned one of a stud QB, RB or WR. This will be the 1st year that hasn't happened.
The defense should be enough to win a lot of games next year. With the exception of Ole Miss, I don't see any offensive juggernauts on the schedule.
It all depends on Young. If he is who we think he is, Bama will be back in the playoffs.
The talent is there at OL, but inexperienced. Luckily, Neal is an All American type player and EE is an All SEC player.
Bama usually returned one of a stud QB, RB or WR. This will be the 1st year that hasn't happened.
The defense should be enough to win a lot of games next year. With the exception of Ole Miss, I don't see any offensive juggernauts on the schedule.
It all depends on Young. If he is who we think he is, Bama will be back in the playoffs.
The talent is there at OL, but inexperienced. Luckily, Neal is an All American type player and EE is an All SEC player.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:41 am to remaster916
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This looks to be the biggest offensive rebuild of the Saban era.
2011 is properly the most comparable, I'd think
- new QB
- new RB (though he had more experience than our 2021 group)
- lost #1 alpha WR
- lost 2 OL
Also pretty comparable on the defensive side, as well.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:44 am to UltimaParadox
I think Metchie will be ready to step up - dude has learned a lot from a group of fantastic receivers and some great qbs.
I bet he is ready to show what he can do as a go to guy.
Obvious decline in overall talent but if Metchie and Billingsly come ready to play, we should still be very dangerous
I bet he is ready to show what he can do as a go to guy.
Obvious decline in overall talent but if Metchie and Billingsly come ready to play, we should still be very dangerous
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
I am selfish but I hope #4 returns at RB to be the lead dog for 2021.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:46 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I think Metchie will be ready to step up - dude has learned a lot from a group of fantastic receivers and some great qbs.
I bet he is ready to show what he can do as a go to guy
I think it's huge to have 2 guys who have been in the program for multiple years and been on the field a lot like Metchie and Slade, plus a slew of upcoming sophomores who are going to want to prove they aren't all going to get passed by.
The makeup of that WR room is about as good as you could want in a year when you lose 2 elite players. The veteran leadership and competition will be fantastic.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:47 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
His first run for no gain people will be screaming for Jase 
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.Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:47 am to Carlton
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His first run for no gain people will be screaming for Jase .
HE JUST AINT AN SEC BACK PAWL
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
Are we sure Owens and McMillon are leaving? Owens at least would probably have a good shot at starting if he stays
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
Ya and we have a ton of incoming freshman talent - a lot of talented guys fighting for spots is a great situation for a couple of them to make significant improvement
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:51 am to Crimson77
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Are we sure Owens and McMillon are leaving? Owens at least would probably have a good shot at starting if he stays
No, we aren't
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
Don't forget Xavier Williams, I don't think he is going anywhere. It looks like he supplanted Javon Baker, likely for reliability reasons, the second half of the season. Metchie, Bolden and Williams will provide experience then Baker, Thaiu-Bell, Holden, Leary, Earle, Hall, and Brooks will have to win those spots or earn playing time. People keep bringing up a grad transfer WR, I really don't think we need one. The room has a solid balance of experience and new talent.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:56 am to Carlton
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Don't forget Xavier Williams, I don't think he is going anywhere. It looks like he supplanted Javon Baker, likely for reliability reasons, the second half of the season. Metchie, Bolden and Williams will provide experience then Baker, Thaiu-Bell, Holden, Leary, Earle, Hall, and Brooks will half to win those spots or earn playing time. People keep bringing up a grad transfer WR, I really don't think we need one. The room has a solid balance of experience and new talent.
Agreed - really good setup for competition and getting better.
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