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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:57 am to bamameister
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:57 am to bamameister
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That's not the question. The question is: Do you agree with the "protesters"?
No, I don't. This isn't a race problem.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:00 am to 1BamaRTR
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A lot of them are also out of towners. So they don’t care if they burn everything to the ground because it’s not their area.
The folks in Birmingham last night were not out of towners. They ventured into 5 points west. People from out of town would have gone to more "visible" areas.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:02 am to imjustafatkid
MeeMaw just authorized the use of 1000 national guardsmen.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:07 am to imjustafatkid
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No, I don't. This isn't a race problem.
No, frankly it's a hate problem, that includes racism as the immediate feature. Minorities and the poor have been complaining and paying for this "hatred" for centuries in this country, in particular, in the executive and judicial branch of our government. What we really have here is a "people" problem.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:09 am to Tide or Die87
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The same thing did not happened to you. Your driver was speeding the OP doesn't know why they were stopped.
And it's blatantly irresponsible to attribute them being pulled over due to their race when he doesn't know why they were stopped.
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This is absolutely a race issue. How many white protesters were hurt while protesting their right to go where they want and do what they want during quarantine.
His story had nothing to do with the protests.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:15 am to bamameister
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No, frankly it's a hate problem
No. It isn't. At most, it's a power problem. The biggest problem is that the ones yelling about it want more goverment power as the solution. It's a self-fulfilling cycle.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
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The honest truth is a lot of them don't even care about the white ones killed by police
I do.
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If they truly did, they'd be fully behind and participating in the protests.
Looting and burning buildings to the ground is not protesting. It's criminal activity. I'm sorry I don't engage in that behavior. My parents taught me better.
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They only pretend to care to use it as a cudgel to protect their own white fragility
I work for perhaps the most diverse entity in the United States and all of my co-workers, regardless of race, are appalled at what is happening right now. Yes, the cop deserves to go to jail. George Floyd didn't do anything to cause his death. Burning down Target and McDonald's is not going to change anything for the better.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:23 am to bamameister
After watching a documentary on Jamaican police brutality, it's definitely not a race issue. 
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
What is being done about the cop who killed the guy? Hasn't he been arrested and isn't he being prosecuted for murder? If that's happening, then what exactly are rioters and looters protesting and expecting to accomplish with such tactics?
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:28 am to imjustafatkid
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The folks in Birmingham last night were not out of towners.
There might've been some initially around the statue, but anyone claiming it was "outside agitators" who were attacking reporters and burning businesses is lying.
Some of the stuff that is spray painted around Linn Park today is really strange though. All sorts of weird political messages about Albinos and such.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:32 am to TideSaint
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Looting and burning buildings to the ground is not protesting.
Jesus, it's like talking to 5 year olds with some of yall. I specifically said protesting. I said nothing about looting or rioting.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:34 am to imjustafatkid
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No. It isn't. At most, it's a power problem. The biggest problem is that the ones yelling about it want more goverment power as the solution. It's a self-fulfilling cycle.
No kidding and how did you miss my points up to now? Blacks are all over the different branches of government, local, state, and federal. It's still a huge disconnect between citizens in general and elected officials and certainly police departments everywhere.
The police department as expressed by numerous black and white Chiefs of police all over the country this past week are telling news outlets they struggle to police there own. Their words.
Yeah, it's a power struggle for change. Might makes right in this world. Something about the law of the jungle. The oppressed are pi$$ed and when has anyone ever seen a police officer be indicted for murder in only 4 days. Well, before the "official" department review and investigation? NEVER! Sounds like someone has already effected "change."
Have you noticed a lot of these crowds are made up of folks all decked out as Caucasians? What's that all about?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:50 am to FairhopeTider
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All sorts of weird political messages about Albinos and such.
...albinos?? I don't think I could even understand where they're coming from with that.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:52 am to The Spleen
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Jesus, it's like talking to 5 year olds with some of yall. I specifically said protesting. I said nothing about looting or rioting.
You’re like talking to a woman in a pussy hat who thinks logic is mansplaining. I truly hope these folks find their way to your house to show you some “peaceful protest”.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:53 am to bamameister
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when has anyone ever seen a police officer be indicted for murder in only 4 days. Well, before the "official" department review and investigation? NEVER! Sounds like someone has already effected "change."
I was with you until this. It doesn't do anyone any favors for anyone to be arrested and charged before investigation is completed. Not just offenders, but victims also benefit from that process playing out. Rushed investigations lead to no conviction.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:55 am to TidalSurge1
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What is being done about the cop who killed the guy? Hasn't he been arrested and isn't he being prosecuted for murder? If that's happening, then what exactly are rioters and looters protesting and expecting to accomplish with such tactics?
He was arrested after something like 3 days. The cop whose knee was on Floyd's neck is just part of the problem, it was the other three who just sat there with their thumbs up their asses and watched him do it for 8+ minutes. Those three really underscore some of the issues with police in our country. We can't just point to the one cop and say he was a lone bad apple when his fellow police officers just sat there and watched him. Then, when you step back even further, you see that this cop had something like 18 infractions or complaints against his use of force, was involved in (per my recollection) more than one shooting, yet still had a badge.
We can collectively recognize that police officers have a difficult job to do while also recognizing that we need to dramatically overhaul the way that use of force by our police is examined.
That's what many people are protesting about. Since you asked specifically about the "rioters and looters," I don't have an answer for you. I agree with the sentiment that destruction of property is not the right way to do things, but I also understand the frustration when you have people protesting like this, yet getting dragged away and arrested by the police for seemingly no reason: https://twitter.com/sweeeetdee_/status/1267319103167107072
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:56 am to imjustafatkid
It kills me that people who rush out and loot a liquor store over an incident in another city actually wonder why they don’t have a great relationship with the police.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 11:57 am to mre
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it was the other three who just sat there with their thumbs up their asses and watched him do it for 8+ minutes
I think these weren't arrested at the same time because the city is trying to push the "lone white cop" narrative and deflect from their own failings. The media is helping my blaming Trump, racists, whatever else. Those cops are clearly accessories to this crime and should absolutely be charged. 1 of the other cops is black, and 1 is Asian. Arresting them all at the same time would have sent a clear visual picture that this is a City problem, not a race problem.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:16 pm to The Spleen
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LovetheLord
fricking hypocrite
Awww. Look who believes “peaceful protests” as not so awesome when he considers it coming to his own front door.
It’s all fun and games and gated community parlor talk until they show up in your neighborhood. And if you want to keep believing it’s justifiable peaceful protesting, then I’m going to keep hoping that they show up at your house.
Please, show us that you aren’t a hypocrite when the guy is running down the street with your Possessions.
You illogical twit.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:19 pm to The Spleen
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fricking hypocrite.
Yep. Consistently, blatantly and blindly.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:52 pm
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