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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:33 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:33 am to pvilleguru
I don’t agree with the rest of what he said but I do think that a lot of people rioting (not the more peaceful protests) and of course looting don’t really care. They’re just using it as excuse to burn, destroy, and loot because they know the cops can’t do much right now.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:35 am to RollTide4Ever
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. Kneeling for the national anthem implied systemic racism, which made no freaking sense at that time and makes no sense today.
The school system is where it starts.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:38 am to Tide or Die87
Controversial opinion: Kap originally started kneeling in a ploy to put heat on his employer to start him, etc. It snowball from there and suddenly he became something that deep down he didn't want to be: the face of a movement. The next day, his agent/pr etc. made sure he got the full leftist attire kit and he had to go from there.
Just watching interviews of him, I get the impression he's not an avid student of Malcolm X, etc. That time he canceled an appearance meeting was also suspect.
Just watching interviews of him, I get the impression he's not an avid student of Malcolm X, etc. That time he canceled an appearance meeting was also suspect.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:40 am to phil4bama
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And the alternative was to say no, wait for the police to obtain a search warrant and still go through the whole process while their night is ruined completely. They had no choice if they wanted any chance to go to their event. And as was stated, there was nothing found because there was nothing to find. I would love to hear what the probable cause was.
Nah. It ruins the cops night too. Most of the time you just wait till drug dogs get there because if a dog hits outside the car then they don't need a warrant. Saying no wouldn't have taken any longer than saying yes did. Probably would have been quicker, actually.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:41 am to RollTide4Ever
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Plenty of white folks got killed, etc. in the war on drugs. The mainstream media gives folks another impression.
Why does it take for black people to start riots for white people and other races to start saying things like this. Do y'all not be outraged as well? Like where do we say that yall don't go through shite as well.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:41 am to imjustafatkid
These cops have to meet their quota.
One cop called out the police revenue racket in Auburn and paid the price awhile back.
One cop called out the police revenue racket in Auburn and paid the price awhile back.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:42 am to pvilleguru
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Y'all can still come out and support these things. Everyone would be on board. You don't have to go back into hiding.
I will not say or do anything that would lead anyone to even remotely believe I support or agree with these rioters.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:43 am to 1BamaRTR
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I don’t agree with the rest of what he said but I do think that a lot of people rioting (not the more peaceful protests) and of course looting don’t really care. They’re just using it as excuse to burn, destroy, and loot because they know the cops can’t do much right now.
If you've been watching coverage across different mediums, I don't think there is any question there are scores of opportunists out there using these protests as cover to incite property damage and loot. Some are locals looking for free stuff, some are locals taking out their angers and frustrations, some are alt-right fanbois looking to stir shite up, and some are the Antifa crowd that just want to smash windows and spray paint graffiti. Lumping all of the bad actor opportunists into any one of those categories is ignorant and not really helpful to the overall picture.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:45 am to Robot Santa
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I hate to break it to you but if a cop wants to search your car, your car is getting searched one way or another. If you say no, he will suddenly notice that you are acting pretty nervous and then observe the odor of marijuana emitting from your vehicle.
I'm sure this happens, but it never happened to me and I had this experience multiple times.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:45 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Excellent. So we're going to be stuck with the same shite we currently have all because of fricking pride.
I will not say or do anything that would lead anyone to even remotely believe I support or agree with these rioters.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:47 am to Tide or Die87
I've stated before I'm AA, even lived in the Elyton Projects for a few years as a kid. I went to middle school at Lincoln Middle School, down the street from Parker High School. This was in the mid 90s.
I choose to not let myself be a victim and take control of my own destiny. This led me to read many books, etc.
As for your question, Some of the white most conservative people spoke against the police state before it was cool: Milton Friedman despised Nixon and his War on Drugs. There's an early 70s video of him stating so. William F. Buckley is another one, as waspy as they come and he hated the War on Drugs. Look at his debate with Charles Rangel, a so-called black leader who also support the draft.
A lot AAs don't realize how statist their so-called leaders are. Awhile back when police were using military weapons in Ferguson it came out that their Democrat leader in congress help authorized the weaponization of police back in the 1990s.
I choose to not let myself be a victim and take control of my own destiny. This led me to read many books, etc.
As for your question, Some of the white most conservative people spoke against the police state before it was cool: Milton Friedman despised Nixon and his War on Drugs. There's an early 70s video of him stating so. William F. Buckley is another one, as waspy as they come and he hated the War on Drugs. Look at his debate with Charles Rangel, a so-called black leader who also support the draft.
A lot AAs don't realize how statist their so-called leaders are. Awhile back when police were using military weapons in Ferguson it came out that their Democrat leader in congress help authorized the weaponization of police back in the 1990s.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:47 am to The Spleen
Sure most of y'all have seen this by now, but just adding a little updated news to the thread in case you haven't...
'You will be arrested’: Birmingham under curfew starting Monday at 7:00 p.m.
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Birmingham [Alabama] Mayor Randall Woodfin said the city is now under a state of emergency.
Mayor Woodfin said the City of Birmingham has declared a state of emergency due to civil unrest across the city.
Starting Monday night, June 1, the city of Birmingham will be under a curfew from 7:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. every day going forward.
Travel on public streets will be limited. Employees will need to provide a form or document to prove people need to work during those curfew hours.
'You will be arrested’: Birmingham under curfew starting Monday at 7:00 p.m.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:50 am to RollTide4Ever
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One cop called out the police revenue racket in Auburn and paid the price awhile back
The police revenue thing is more about speeding tickets. They aren't making a lot of money out of sending someone to jail and feeding them. Traffic fines are far more lucrative for municipalities and the abuse of them absolutely needs to be addressed.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:50 am to The Spleen
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some are alt-right fanbois looking to stir shite up
This is a lie.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:51 am to Tide or Die87
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Why does it take for black people to start riots for white people and other races to start saying things like this. Do y'all not be outraged as well? Like where do we say that yall don't go through shite as well.
The honest truth is a lot of them don't even care about the white ones killed by police. If they truly did, they'd be fully behind and participating in the protests. They only pretend to care to use it as a cudgel to protect their own white fragility.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:51 am to The Spleen
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Lumping all of the bad actor opportunists into any one of those categories is ignorant and not really helpful to the overall picture.
I’m not saying they’re all in but I’m saying most of them are out to just cause chaos just because they can. It’s not ignorant. It’s what’s happening.
A lot of them are also out of towners. So they don’t care if they burn everything to the ground because it’s not their area.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:52 am to imjustafatkid
Nothing new. Police have used such tactics for harassment as well. That's why AG Gaston left Demopolis for Birmingham.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:54 am to imjustafatkid
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I will not say or do anything that would lead anyone to even remotely believe I support or agree with these rioters.
That's not the question. The question is: Do you agree with the "protesters"?
Social issues in this country have to be discussed as the complicated mess we've inherited. There are "protesters" who want justice for all the Floyds out there. There are the looters and rioters who want to take advantage of the hate and label the movement something else.
Are you mentally and morally capable of addressing those issues in a fair manner? Now there's a question.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:55 am to 1BamaRTR
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I’m not saying they’re all in but I’m saying most of them are out to just cause chaos just because they can. It’s not ignorant. It’s what’s happening.
Sorry, I got your point and wasn't calling you ignorant. I was calling the ones blaming it all on antifa, or the locals, or the alt-right buys there. They're all contributing to it in different ways.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:56 am to The Spleen
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The honest truth is a lot of them don't even care about the white ones killed by police. If they truly did, they'd be fully behind and participating in the protests. They only pretend to care to use it as a cudgel to protect their own white fragility.
I voted for a president who endorsed and passed a prison reform bill. Far more than you've done.
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