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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:50 am to TideCPA
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:50 am to TideCPA
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Why is that the case if the issue, as you claim, is policing in general?
I'm guessing because there isn't a social issues organization amplifying those cases to media and on social media.
Anyone here complaining about it is free to start their organization to amplify these cases, but seems most just want to sit at their computer and complain about it not being covered.
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:52 am to The Spleen
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CPA firms aren't turning in clients that try to defraud the tax system, they usually jsut fire them as clients and let someone else deal with the problem.
What you said makes no sense.
The only way for a tax client of a CPA firm to defraud the tax system is for the CPA firm to file a fraudulent tax report for them. Unless they actually file fraudulent tax documents, no crime has been committed that can be investigated. "My client asked me to do something I think goes against current tax law, so I fired him as a client" isn't something the government can act on. That means literally nothing.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:02 pm to The Spleen
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I'm guessing because there isn't a social issues organization amplifying those cases to media and on social media.
You're getting close. It certainly has to do with the media and social media.
But I'm glad you recognize that if you are a white person killed or otherwise victimized by police, you have zero chance of having your victimization result in immediate arrest of the perpetrators, widespread protest and civil disruption, endless media coverage, federal bills, worldwide corporate virtue signaling, and dedicated threads on the Alabama SEC Rant board.
What's that about privilege, again?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:04 pm to imjustafatkid
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What you said makes no sense.
The only way for a tax client of a CPA firm to defraud the tax system is for the CPA firm to file a fraudulent tax report for them. Unless they actually file fraudulent tax documents, no crime has been committed that can be investigated. "My client asked me to do something I think goes against current tax law, so I fired him as a client" isn't something the government can act on. That means literally nothing.
What he is saying is that they don’t report if they find a crime. For example, say they find out company A has been using ghost employees to overbill clients. Instead of reporting them, they just say “we can’t do your work anymore.” It certainly happens, but nowhere nearly as often as he thinks and as I said nowhere near as often as the local convenience store gets robbed.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:13 pm to imjustafatkid
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What you said makes no sense.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about that I experienced. I'm a CPA that used to do tax work years ago. We had a new client approach us to prepare his business and personal returns. I sat down with him to go through his prior year returns and go over his current year records. It was evident to me he was trying to under report his income. I told him I would need an explanation on why his monthly bank deposits were significantly higher than his reported income in his Quickbooks file. Never heard from him again. I was fairly certain he was attempting to have a fraudulent return prepared, but we didn't report him to anyone(that decision went above my head.) We also didn't have his prior year source documents to know if he had done the same the prior year. But I have no doubt he found an unethical tax preparer to do it for him.
Are those situations rampant? Not really, but when I was in that field, I ran into a few each tax filing season that didn't seem right. SOmetimes they were honest mistakes/oversights by the clients. Other times it was clearly the client trying to either understate income, or overstate expenses or deductions.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:17 pm to JustGetItRight
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What he is saying is that they don’t report if they find a crime. For example, say they find out company A has been using ghost employees to overbill clients. Instead of reporting them, they just say “we can’t do your work anymore.” It certainly happens, but nowhere nearly as often as he thinks and as I said nowhere near as often as the local convenience store gets robbed.
Tax fraud isn't even something that local police handle, which is why the whole "well what if we account for white collar crime..." argument is kind of a non-starter. A CPA firm that uncovers financial crimes would turn the perpetrator into the IRS, not local law enforcement. The scope of white collar crime that is even within the jurisdiction of local cops is extremely narrow, and most of it is just a half step above something like porch piracy. For example, an employee of a small business skimming money. Anything dealing with taxes, investments, or mail fraud, which is like 99% of white collar crime, is going to be federal jurisdiction.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:24 pm to Robot Santa
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which is like 99% of white collar crime, is going to be federal jurisdiction.
And would still go into the total arrest/conviction records.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:30 pm to The Spleen
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Are those situations rampant? Not really, but when I was in that field, I ran into a few each tax filing season that didn't seem right. SOmetimes they were honest mistakes/oversights by the clients. Other times it was clearly the client trying to either understate income, or overstate expenses or deductions.
Sure these things happen, but there really isn't anything to report if they haven't filed anything with the government. The end result here would be the former client simply fixing the issue, without being charged with any crime, and then suing you.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:23 pm to TideCPA
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But I'm glad you recognize that if you are a white person killed or otherwise victimized by police, you have zero chance of having your victimization result in immediate arrest of the perpetrators, widespread protest and civil disruption, endless media coverage, federal bills, worldwide corporate virtue signaling, and dedicated threads on the Alabama SEC Rant board.
It's possible all that can happen if the right organization came along to amplify it. Organizations using the media to get their message out isn't a new thing. If there's enough noise over an issue, it's going to be covered by the media.
So again I say if those issues are as important to you as you claim on here, start a movement. Get people behind your message, and use the tools out there to amplify that message. Only bringing it up when it happens to a black person and black organizations amplify it makes you sound like crybaby.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:29 pm to The Spleen
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And would still go into the total arrest/conviction records.
It would also have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the allocation of local law enforcement resources.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:52 pm to The Spleen
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It's possible all that can happen if the right organization came along to amplify it. Organizations using the media to get their message out isn't a new thing. If there's enough noise over an issue, it's going to be covered by the media.
There are plenty of organizations who have made "noise" for years. Organizations like Copwatch, the Libertarian Party, the ACLU (before they became an arm of the DNC), the Constitution Project, the Institute for Justice, etc.
They simply didn't get "amplified" by the media apparatuses in the past because they couldn't be used as a tool in the Red Team vs. Blue Team shell game.
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So again I say if those issues are as important to you as you claim on here, start a movement. Get people behind your message, and use the tools out there to amplify that message. Only bringing it up when it happens to a black person and black organizations amplify it makes you sound like crybaby.
I've "brought it up" for years, regardless of the color of the victim. There is only one crowd who currently selectively raises the issue of police reform based solely on the race of a victim. Thus, any political solutions that group proposes should be met with a healthy dose of intellectual skepticism.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:39 pm to TideCPA
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Birmingham Housing Authority cuts ties to Church of the Highlands, Alabama's largest church, after pastor "likes" a number of racist social media posts
Went to go look up those racist posts and it turns out that they were posts by TPUSA Turning Point USA
The madness continues
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:01 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
I would love to see what TPUSA posted that is supposedly "racist."
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:05 pm to imjustafatkid
I just found the article about it on al.com, and they don't show any of the posts. If they were actually racist you know they'd have screenshots of every one.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:07 pm to imjustafatkid
I scrolled their Twitter and didn't see anything that should be deemed racist. I'm assuming it is just because they are conservative. Par for the course nowadays.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:11 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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I scrolled their Twitter and didn't see anything that should be deemed racist. I'm assuming it is just because they are conservative. Par for the course nowadays.
Candace Owens works for them. That's probably the driving factor.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:24 pm to imjustafatkid
Candace Owens is a strong woman. She doesn’t take any shite 
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:48 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:22 pm to imjustafatkid
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I would love to see what TPUSA posted that is supposedly "racist."
According to the English teacher who researched all of the pastor's Twitter activity, these were the racist posts by the TPUSA president that he "liked":
"One meme shared by Kirk featured a photo of Donald Trump standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks, with the caption, “The racist Donald Trump in the 1980s,” next to a photo of Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam in a photo of two men wearing blackface and a KKK costume in a 1984 yearbook photo for Eastern Virginia Medical School. The caption for the second photo was “Progressive Leftist Ralph Northam in the 1980s.”
Clisby also shared a screen shot of that post with Hodges as one of those who “liked” the post on social media. Another screen shot showed Hodges liking a post about former President Barack Obama playing golf beneath a quote from Michelle Obama urging people to stay home except for essential activities. Another screen shot shows Hodges liking a photo of Kirk donating blood above the sentence, “We all must do our part to defeat China Virus.”
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:25 pm to Evolved Simian
So they actually cut ties with him for liking posts that are inconvenient?
That would be about par for Birmingham.
That would be about par for Birmingham.
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